Allah in the Quran, Chapter 48
01 Jan 2015
ALLAH'S INCITEMENTS TO AND DEMANDS FOR WAR
001 Islam and Muslims claim that "Islam is the Religion of Peace". Among others the verses below prove that the claim is wrong: Allah demands war, blood and suppression/apartheid.
002 Allah's incitements and demands for war make a joke of claims like "the religion of peace", "Yahweh is just another name for Allah", "Jesus and Muhammad are in the same line of prophets", etc. But anyhow you have to obey Allah - or at least Muhammad.
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003 2/154a: “And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah: ‘They are dead’. Nay, they are living (and enjoy a luxury life with lots of sex in Paradise*) - - -.” Go to war – the worst which can happen to you is a quick way to a royal Earth-like life with a royal harem - see 10/9f below. (The possibility of becoming an invalid is never mentioned - never. The nearest you come this, is one place where the Quran glorifies warriors who become hurt, but still fight on.)
004 2/154b: “And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah: ‘They are dead’. Nay, they are living - - -". One of the many, many never proved claims in the Quran. And as the Quran with all its errors, etc. is from no god, it is highly unlikely it has reliable information about this.
005 2/155a: "- - - We (Allah*) shall test you (Muslims*) - - -." Why did Allah need to test the Muslims if he was omniscient and on top of all decides everything, according to the Quran? - but if Muhammad or someone just made up the religion, this is a nice whip to maintain discipline.
006 2/155b: "- - - glad tidings - - -". May be for the many who grew rich from stealing/robbing, enslaving, etc., and for many who believed they had found salvation in this war religion based on a book ripe with mistakes, etc. But definitely not for all the victims for Islam's aggression and brutality - victims Islam even today is not developed and mature enough to feel any sympathy, not to mention empathy, with - and why should they? - as non-Muslims are not completely human, then why should they?
007 2/190a: "Fight in the cause of Allah - - -". A clear order. And a convenient order for Muhammad (and for his successors), as this here on Earth in reality meant "fight for Muhammad when he wants".
008 2/190b: "Fight in the cause of Allah - - -". This way of thinking is incompatible with at least NT, and one of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - unless he is strongly schizophrenic. (Also in OT the fighting was not for the god, but to make room for and later defend a Jewish nation).
In a way worse - at least morally: The Quran makes it ever so clear that the best religious deed, is to fight in raids and wars for Allah/Muhammad (and nearly all of these were raids and wars for stealing, robbing, extortion, rape, slave taking, etc., and later also for spreading Islam directly or indirectly by means of the sword.
009 2/190c: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you - - -". This is one of the fundamentals behind the sharia laws concerning war - except that soon it was not necessary that "they" were fighting the Muslims - most Muslim wars and raids were wars of aggression (mainly for riches, slaves, power and spreading Islam). Later all the 4 main "law schools" agreed on that the fact that the other part was non-Muslim, was enough reason for declaring jihad - holy war - against them. This point of view was not even questioned in Islam until around 1930, and then because of influence from western thinking.
010 2/190d: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you - - -". This is nice on the paper and in propaganda. The reality is that practically all Muhammad's raids and wars were wars of aggression - included Badr, Uhud, and The Trench (battles of defense in a war of aggression started and kept alive by Muhammad's raiding of caravans, etc.). As far as we have been able to find out, this was the general picture all the way up through the history, until Europe became too strong for them. In addition: All the 4 law schools in Islam agreed on that the fact that an opponent - or not even an opponent, but a land Muslims wanted to conquer - was Pagan, was reason enough to declare Jihad = Holy War of Defense (theoretically Jihad only can be a war of defense, but the way Islam or at least a large percentage of Muslims define "defense", this restriction is just a joke - though convenient to use in debates and propaganda).
###011 2/191a: “And slay them (the non-Muslims*) wherever ye catch them - - -”. A straight, no-nonsense order - not to be misunderstood. Very good words for terrorists.
012 2/191d: “- - - tumult and oppression is worse than slaughter; - - -” - but only oppression of Muslims (non-Muslims should and shall be oppressed and subdued - - - by Muslims). It is better to kill the non-Muslims than to live suppressed by them - even the Quran clearly states that in Muslim states the non-Muslim of course have to accept suppression, lack of power of all kinds, and to pay extra and often heavy head tax - jizya. But then the Quran as clearly states that Muslims are better beings than non-Muslims. (See separate chapter in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran").
There also is the question of who defines what is suppression.
*013 2/191i: “- - - such is the reward (to be killed*) for those who suppress faith (Islam*)”. Honest words - and sugar for terrorists, especially as the terrorists themselves decide who are suppressors “in the widest meaning of the word”. Anyone who tells you the Quran has to be disused to incite to hate, war and terrorism - tell them to read the book just once (but without religious or political blindness). Strictly speaking: It is the ones who do not want war - included terrorism - who are wrong according to the Quran.
If non-Muslims dominate Muslim area - hate them and kill them, so Muslims can dominate and suppress and tax the survivors fair and just. The Muslim way of fair play?
014 2/191k: Verse 2/191 is one of the ones which back the foundation for sharia laws concerning treatment of non-Muslims.
##015 2/193a: "And fight them (non-Muslims*) until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah". More clear words for your money.
##016 2/193b: "And fight them (non-Muslims*) until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah". Even if we omit the "faith in Allah" this one is incompatible with the Bible, and especially with NT. Another proof for that Yahweh and Allah is not the same god - the ways of thinking, the fundamental ideal and the morality, etc. are too different. At least a Milky Way away from "turn the other cheek".
##017 2/193c: "And fight them (non-Muslims*) until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah". This is one of the basics under the sharia laws for fighting and for treatment of non-Muslims.
###018 2/193d: "And fight them (non-Muslims*) until - - - there prevail - - - faith in Allah." This is one of the essences in verse 193. Worth remembering and to beware of. Especially as the exact and correct translation according to A: "The Message of the Quran" is: "- - - and religion belongs to Allah (alone)"(!!)
The best of all religious deeds according to the Quran, is to fight in raids and wars for Muhammad/Allah - and like here in addition force Islam on non-Muslims (or kill them if they resists) must be an added bonus.
019 2/194e: “If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him - - -”. Take revenge. Incompatible with at least NT. It is a long way from here to "turn the other cheek" (f.x. Matt. 5/39). Very different gods. Very different religions. And very different top representatives on Earth - no, not very; extremely.
####020 2/216a: “Fighting is prescribed for you (Muslims*) - - -.” A more direct verbal incitement is difficult to find, unless it is accompanied by threats and/or promises of wealth, power/status and women – in this and/or the next life - - - like it is in the Quran.
According to the Quran fighting for Muhammad (Allah?) was and is and will forever be the best of religious deeds.
***021 2/216c: “Fighting is prescribed for you (Muslims*), and ye dislike it.” Not all of his followers liked to go to war. (And you should remember that also today far from all Muslims like to go to war.)
022 2/216d: “- - - it is possible that ye dislike a thing (fighting*) which is good for you - - -.” Go to war – it is good for you whether you like it or not (implicit meaning; at least Allah will favor you in the next life.) Incitement with added incentives of looting, raping, and enslaving, etc.
023 2/216e: “- - - But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you (to fight in war*), and that you love a thing (peace*) that is bad for you.” No comments except a question: Did you ever meet a person telling that Islam is a peaceful religion? - "the Religion of Peace"? Or Allah a god of peace? Did you in case ask him if Islam also is "the Religion of Honesty"?
024 2/217g: “Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter”. Unrest and oppression against the Muslims are no good - it is better that the Muslims in case kill the opponents (in this case it was about the old regime in Mecca - still not overrun - but other verses in the Quran make the order general. See 2/191a-d). Nice “food” for terrorists - the West is suppressing Muslims they say, and as everybody there pay taxes (not true - and the ones who do, have to) to their Islam-suppressing regimes, everybody is guilty, and deserves to be killed. Words are cheap, and it always is possible to twist reality enough to find what excuses you want.
###025 2/244a: “Then fight in the cause of Allah - - -". An order not possible to misunderstand - from the good idol Muhammad leading the claimed "religion of peace". One more point not found in the Bible and the religion of Yahweh (there were fights in OT, but for establishing and later defending the country, NOT for promoting the religion). One of the many 100%+ proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god and Jesus and Muhammad far from in the same religion.
###026 2/244b: “Then fight in the cause of Allah - - -". Nearly all armed conflicts Muhammad had, were acts of aggression. Totally incompatible at least with NT. As for OT, it permitted war, but for the limited purpose to create and defend a Jewish state, whereas most of Muhammad's conflicts were raids for riches and some for power and/or spreading his new religion + in some cases for revenge.
###027 2/244c: “Then fight in the cause of Allah - - -". One of the sentences behind the sharia laws - a central part of them in this case (and also a central part of the Quran's sometimes immoral or highly immoral rules).
###028 2/244d: “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah heareth and knoweth all things.” An order not possible to misunderstand + incitement + hint about reward for war and hint about punishment if you do not go to war. The religion of peace?
029 2/245a: “Who is he that will loan Allah a beautiful loan - - -” In the Quran the expression “loan Allah a beautiful loan” normally means to risk your life – or lose it – in war, but sometimes it also may mean to give money to Muhammad, mainly for war purposes.
030 2/245b: “Who is he that will loan Allah a beautiful loan, which Allah will double unto his credit and multiply many times?” In the Quran the expression “loan Allah a beautiful loan” as said just above normally means to risk your life – or lose it – in war, but sometimes it also may mean to give money to Muhammad, mainly for war purposes. In both cases no repayment is promised in this world – only in the next. A most cheap way in this world for Muhammad to finance his wars and get willing warriors – especially if the religion is made up and Allah does not exist or if there is a god, but a different one from the god you meet in the Quran, and who consequently is not bound by Muhammad’s words. (What will then be the result for Muslims?)
031 2/246f: "- - - fight in the cause of Allah". Even though this is (pretended to be) said to the Jews, it is one of the points behind the laws for war in the sharia laws, and behind even modern time glorification of war in Islam. And good for Allah(?) and for Muhammad.
032 2/246g: “How could we refuse to fight in the cause of Allah.” The Quran pretends Jews are saying this to one of their prophets (Samuel), but it really is included as a pep talk to Muslims inspiring them to war. The text is somewhat(!) changed compared the one in the Bible, from where the story comes (1. Sam., chapter 8) - these words simply are not from the Bible.
033 2/249f: “How oft, by Allah’s will, hath a small force vanquished a big one? Allah is with those who steadfastly persevere.” This contradicts the Bible. According to the Bible the Jews had no "small force". They had their full army on a hill, facing the Philistine army on a neighboring hill with a valley in between (1. Sam. 17/3). This situation remained for many (40) days (1. Sam. 17/1) before the youth David happened to be sent with food to his 3 brothers in Saul's army (1. Sam. 17/17-18) and there killed the giant Goliath, who had been calling on the Jews for a duel man-to-man to decide the war (in the old times it did happen that one or a few from each army was elected to fight it out as proxies for the whole armies - much less bloodshed). A bit different from the story in the Quran.
Also it is very likely Muhammad has mixed Saul's/Talus’s war with Gideon's - no god had done that.
034 2/250c: "- - - help us (Jews*) against those who reject faith". Do you see the parallel Muhammad here makes to his own warlike intentions? You will find many such parallels in the Quran - Muhammad needed "proofs" for that his situation and what he did, was normal for prophets, and thus that he really was a prophet like he claimed.
035 3/13ba: "- - - fight in the cause of Allah - - -". Any comments necessary? - the best of religious deeds.
##036 3/111a: "They (non-Muslims*) will do you no harm, barring a trifling annoyance, if they come out to fight you, they will show you their backs, and no help will they get”. The Quran's insistence on and romancing of war, is one of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are two different gods (if they exist). Especially the contrast to NT and its new covenance (= the teachings of Jesus) is staggering.
037 3/111b: "They (non-Muslims*) will do you no harm, barring a trifling annoyance, if they come out to fight you - - -". Pep-talk: Non-Muslims are no good warriors - do not be afraid when fighting them.
*038 3/111c: “- - - if they (the People of the Book = mainly Jews and Christians*) come out to fight you, they will show you their backs, and no help will they get”. Pep talk for warriors. Far from always true, as history has showed and shows.
039 3/120e: This verse is one of many in the Quran painting non-Muslims very black and inducing distaste and worse against them. Fertilizer for the cultivation of the strong fascism and war rhetoric in the surahs from Medina.
040 3/125a: “Yea – if you remain firm - - - your Lord (Allah*) would help you with five thousand angels making a terrific onslaughter”. Go to war in the secure knowledge that Allah sends large battalions of soldiering angels fighting beside you. It is not explained why an omnipotent god had/has to send angles and by the thousands to strain your enemy’s forces to give you a better chance to win. But a mighty pep-talk for believers – especially the uneducated and/or naïve ones. But again: Why does an omnipotent god have to bring his followers to war to strengthen his position? If it was Muhammad who wanted more power and more riches to use for bribes and more power and women, the logic is easy to understand, but an omniscient and omnipotent god - - -?
041 3/125b: “Yea – if you remain firm - - - your Lord (Allah*) would help you with five thousand angels making a terrific onslaughter”. This is not from the Bible, and you also find nothing similar anywhere in that book, not even in the more warlike OT, where the Jews should and had to fight to get a country for themselves, and later to defend it. If Yahweh and Allah had been the same god, this had meant that the god suddenly had got a new idea: Send the angels to take part in battles on Earth. A likely idea?
The fact that no Jewish prophet ever told the same kind of story, also is one more proof tor that Muhammad was not in such a line of prophets - if he had been a prophet. His teaching also on points like this, was very different from the teaching of the Jewish prophets, and thus not in their line or tradition.
042 3/125c: "- - - if you (Muslims*) remain firm - - -". Time and again and again the Quran tells that if the Muslims just persevere, the "enemy" grows tired in the end and the Muslims win. Far too often this has proved correct, a fact all non-Muslims growing tired should remember. This especially the democracies, as they have problems when a fight lasts for a long time - there always are many voices wanting out of the struggle, as they see the short-time gain but not the long-time loss possible.
043 3/125e: “- - - your (Muslims'*) Lord (Allah) would help you with five thousand angles (specially) sent down?” Pep talk and war propaganda. See 3/124a-c above.
044 3/134e: "- - - do good - - -". Beware that when the Quran uses such words, it is in accordance with its own partly immoral moral code. Remember f.x. that the best of deeds in the Quran is to go to war and steal and rape and suppress and kill in the name of Allah.
045 3/136e: "- - - how excellent a recompense (Paradise*) is for those who work (and strive) (good Muslims*)!" If Allah exists. If he is behind what Muhammad told. And if what Muhammad told in the Quran is the full and only truth about this. One should also remember that the Islamic Paradise mainly offers bodily satisfaction and luxury - not very inventive for an omniscient god (in the Bible it is told the Christians will become like angels - f.x. Matt. 22/30). But an excellent attraction for warriors.
046 3/140a: “If a wound hath touched you (Muslim warrior*), be sure a similar wound hath touched the others (the enemy*)”. Pep-talk. Keep the warriors bent on fighting on. A peaceful religion. Very different from especially NT.
047 3/142a: “Did ye think that ye would enter Heaven without Allah testing those of you who fought hard (in His cause) and remained steadfast?” You can come to heaven without being a warrior. But for one thing it is much easier for warriors – and a sure way if you are killed – and for another thing; if you were a brave warrior in this life, you ended in the best parts of Paradise with most luxury, plenty of women (Islam is mainly occupied with men) – and closer to Allah. Mighty incitements. ###But why does an omniscient god have to test his followers to find out what they are worth? - and even more so if he predestines everything, like the Quran claims many places? #######He can learn exactly nothing from it as he already knows everything.
048 3/142d: "- - - steadfast - - -". A word with a similar meaning like "patiently persevere" - an expression non-Muslims should never forget is impressed and impressed on its followers by the Quran: Keep going, and sooner or later your enemy tires and give in, and you win. It has proved true too often.
049 3/144e: "- - - Allah - - - would swiftly reward those who (served Him) with gratitude". If he exists. If he in addition is a god. If he is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran in addition tells the full and only truth on this point.
###050 3/145b: “Nor can a soul die except by Allah’s leave, the term being fixed as by writing”. Wage war - you die when your term comes and not before, no matter what you are doing. The for Muhammad most essential side of predestination? It is easy by means of statistics to show the claim is wrong, but right or wrong does not matter much in cases of blind belief. But one thing is clear: Any man as intelligent as Muhammad did know this was a lie.
*051 3/146b: “How many of the Prophets fought (in Allah’s way), and with them fought large bands of godly men? But they never lost heart if they met with disaster in Allah’s way, nor did they weaken (in will) nor give in. And Allah loves those who are firm and steadfast.” A pep-talk to warriors of all times - never give in, never give up, retreat if you have to, but go on and you will win like the prophets, because Allah will help - - - and sooner or later the lover of religious warriors, Allah, will give you Paradise. Like in the Old Norse religion and other war religions.
As for prophets, Islam maintains that they have existed to all times and all places - Hadith mention the number 124ooo (= 620 at any time for 5ooo years or 12-15 for 160ooo-200ooo. No traces found. Believe it if you can.) , but even that is just a symbol for uncountable many. (Using the religious time-scale = some 5ooo years up to Muhammad, gives 2 new prophets each and every month for those 5ooo years. Using the scientific time-scale = perhaps 195ooo years for Homo Sapiens, gives one new prophet every 18 months approximately. Believe it if you are able to.). This is not true, because it is not possible to find a single trace of monotheistic prophets (except the few in the Bible) anywhere or any time in any form - history, literature, art, architecture, archeology, or even in folk tales. It is not possible that so many prophets should leave not a single trace - especially the warring ones should leave traces, even if they had no success with spreading the religion.
And not many of the prophets we know about from other sources - mainly the Bible - did actually wage war. This picture becomes even more loop-sided when you remember the Bible mentions there were a number of prophets not named by name, and hardly any of these were leaders of wars - in that case they had been more central and named. (NB: The Bible does not reckon f. x. Saul and David - and not even Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob, not to mention Ishmael - primarily as prophets (Ishmael not as prophet at all). Leaders, but the title prophet hardly is used - for a central person like Abraham in all the Bible the title prophet is mentioned only a couple of times. Saul, David, Ishmael and a number of others are not reckoned to be prophets at all in the Bible.) The fact that Biblical prophets normally did not wage war, compared to Muhammad's war religion, also is one of the clear indications for that Muhammad was not in the Biblical line of prophets.
052 3/146c: “And Allah loves those who are firm and steadfast (in battle*)”. Another mighty incitement to primitive warriors – and terrorists - with strong belief.
But Mr. Bush (American president when this originally was written) and others should have remembered this about being steadfast.
053 3/147c: “- - - and help us against those that resist Faith”. Allah will help if you fight for Islam - or for Islamic leaders telling they defend Ummah and Islam. This is from 625 AD – the Medina period. It could have been meant as defensive help, but then one would have used “from”, not “against”. This verse contradicts (and abrogates) at least these verses (here are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51a, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5 in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran". (At least 88 contradictions).
Psychologically a mighty incitement and a strength for upping the fighting spirit, especially with uneducated, primitive warriors or fanatics.
BUT YOU DO NOT FIND THIS KIND OF PROPHETS IN THE BIBLE. THERE WERE A FEW WHO WERE IMPLICATED IN WARS, BUT THAT WAS FOR MAKING OR DEFENDING THE COUNTRY, N O T FOR THE GOD OR THE RELIGION.
054 3/148a: “And Allah gave them (the warriors) a reward in this world (and will consequently give it to you if you fight bravely*) and the excellent reward of the Hereafter”. 80% of the spoils of war - included slaves and women - were for the warriors and their leaders (the remaining 20% were for Allah/Muhammad/the religious leaders - which soon also became political leaders). Women made slaves were fun, because to rape female slaves was your right and no sin. In addition: To do battle for Islam was - and is - a “heavy” application for Paradise, and a sure way to get there no matter what kind of life you have led, if you are killed in battle for Islam (which soon also meant - and means - an easy way for the leaders to recruit warriors). But it is a strange fact that leaders never become suicide bombers. (The Quran tells that suicide is a sin deserving Hell (is this told - or "explained" away to the suicide bombers?) + perhaps the leaders do not like to die yet?)
055 3/148b: "- - - and the excellent reward of the Hereafter”. Well, we are back to the old fact: If Allah exists. If he is a god. If he is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran in addition tells the full and only truth on this point.
But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)
056 3/148d: “For Allah loveth those who do good (in this case: To wage war for Allah and Muhammad*)”. To do battle for Allah - to steal and burn and kill and murder and destroy and rape for the good and benevolent deity - is a good thing which Allah loves. (Actually that it shall be made in the name of the god, makes it even more disgusting.) Did anyone say that modern terrorists have to twist the words of the Quran to find incitements to their deeds? And also: Muhammad got cheap warriors and gained wealth and power - in wars and robberies that really were illegal according to the Quran, as they in reality were wars of aggression, not really of defense. And they gave him the possibility to rape at least two women - Rayhana bint Amr and Safijja bint Huayay.
####057 3/154e: “Even if you had remained in your homes, those for whom death was decreed would certainly have gone forth to the place of their death (anyhow*).” This is the "manifest" of predestination. And: This also is one of the points in the Quran where Muhammad knew he was lying. It is so obviously wrong, that an intelligent man like him knew this was not true. But he was a clever manipulator (“is it not more worth that I live among you, and spend the booty on the people not sure in their belief to make them stay in Islam?” f.x.) and he understood people. Lies like this worked because his followers were primitive and in addition wanted to believe. And for primitive, uneducated souls really believing mish-mash like this (it is easy to prove by statistics that it is untrue, if one are un-intelligent enough not to see at once that it is a lie) it was a mighty incitement – fighting in battles was not dangerous, because Allah had decided when you were to die, and at that time you would die whether you were in a battle or sleeping in your bed. It is worth noticing that even today this is the official point of view of Islam. To quote footnote 3/119 to this surah in “The Message of the Quran” (translated from the Swedish 2006 edition - not found in the English 2008 edition):
“(The) incorrect, heathen belief that humans by acting in special ways can avoid death (even for a time*)”.
Today it like said is easy to prove by statistics that it is very wrong - but Muhammad did not know about statistics (and a god had not even needed statistics to know it was stupidity). On the other hand this claim is so contra all logic, that this like said is one of the points where Muhammad knew he was lying - he was too intelligent to believe in this. Actually Islam today back-pedals very much concerning predestination telling f.x. that the Quran does not mean real predestination (but not explaining what they claim it means). But in some cases the book is so clear, that it is impossible to explain it away.) f.x. many places connected to statements that when your time is out, you will die anyhow, and therefore you can as well go to war.
Also see 3/154g just below.
####Besides: Is it ironic to see a religion built on a book so full of errors, contradictions, wrong facts, etc., that it is clear there is no god behind it, naming others heathens?
058 3/155c: "- - - it was Satan who caused them (the ones don't wanting to fight*), because of some (evil) they had done". In plain language: They were punished for some sin by not wanting to take part in the battle. Some punishment! Some religion! Not to say quite a "religion of peace"!!
##059 3/157b: “And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass”. Nearly no matter how bad a man (nothing is said about women) you have been, to be killed for Allah, is the sure way to go to Paradise. A mighty - and cheap - way to get warriors.
The old Vikings “knew” that if they were killed in battle, they went to Valhalla - that made them ferocious warriors. In Islam the sure way to Paradise with its lazy luxury life and plenty of women, had and has the same effect.
There are two questions, though: Who decides which wars are wanted by Allah? - if you look at history, it seems that a lot of the wars Muslims have fought, in reality were for wealth and power, but mostly they all the same have been declared Holy Wars, a few times even by both sides when both parts were Muslims. And: What if the Quran is invented or not telling the full truth? - all the mistakes and contradictions, etc. in the book make one wonder (or stronger). At least no god makes such a quality book. If the Quran is not from a god, this promise of Paradise also is not true.
In the wars between Sunni and Shi’ia and in power struggles among leaders, a lot of warriors have been cheated - both parts in a war between Muslims cannot be fighting for Allah and the “right” belief, but all warriors on both sides often were told they fought against enemies of Allah. If at least one part was right, the warriors from the opposite part had a rude awakening in Hell, even if they were told and believed they were fighting enemies of Allah. Not to mention when all was a struggle for power among leaders, and Allah did not agree at all that any of them were fighting for him - they only were sinning by killing fellow Muslims “without a good reason”, which is a grave sin worthy of Hell.
And even worse: If the Quran is made up or does not tell the truth on this point, no comment is necessary. Especially not if there exists another, true religion somewhere - a religion Muslims are prohibited to look for. Where will the Muslims end in case if there is a next life?
Another point is that to forgive - or for that case to punish or reward or fulfill prayers - means for Allah to change his Plan considering the sinner/person, something which according to the Quran is something nobody and nothing can make him do. See 2/187d above.
##060 3/157c: “And if ye are slain, or die, in the way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all they could amass”. This only may - may - be true if Allah exist and is a god, and if the non-Muslims on top of this believe in a non-existing god - if their god (f.x. Yahweh) exists, he may be able to outdo Allah. (Especially if Allah in reality is a dressed-up and made up pagan god only - and he was a pagan Arab god before Muhammad took him over and renamed him slightly).
Another point is that to forgive - or for that case to punish or reward or fulfill prayers - means for Allah to change his Plan considering the sinner/person, something which according to the Quran nobody and nothing can make him do. See 2/187d above.
##061 3/158a: “And if ye die, or are slain, lo! It is unto Allah that ye are brought together”. Be killed in war for Allah, and go to paradise - good “knowledge” for a warrior or terrorist. Whoever said the Quran has to be disused to justify terrorism, hardly ever read the Quran - or uses an al-Taqiyya (a lawful lie - this "convenient" Islamic only phenomenon). See also 3/157b above.
062 3/165a: “What! When a single disaster smites you, although ye smote (your enemies) with one twice as great, do ye say, ‘Whence is this?'” Unbelievable! You doubt because of a defeat (Uhud)! Ups and downs are inevitable, and here is a pep-talk against that. Just to mention it; you find nothing like this in NT and the New Covenant.
063 3/167c: "- - - fight in the way of Allah - - -". That the raids and wars were and partly are made in the name of the god, make them even more detestable, especially as most of them were raids and wars of aggression - mainly for riches, slaves and power - and for spreading Islam by means of the sword directly and indirectly.
064 3/167e: “The Message of the Quran” has this remark to this verse (no. 3/128 to this surah): “Only war in self defense – in the widest meaning of the word – can be reckoned to be a fight for the cause of Allah”. But as “the widest meaning of the word" is very wide, each and every war where one part is Muslim and the other not – and most where both parts are Muslims – are in “self defense” or for other reasons are just wars and always are declared jihad, this simply is hypocrisy. Practically all Muslim wars, included wars of aggression, and there have been plenty of those through the history, have been declared “jihad” – at least we have not been able to find many exceptions from this rule. Actually for centuries all the four law schools in Islam agreed on that the fact that the opposite part in a conflict were Pagans, was good enough reason for to attack them and to declare the attack/war for jihad (holy war). It was not until in the 1920s or 1930s that some Muslim scholars started to question this “law” – and it still only is questioned and only by parts of the Muslims, though nowadays these questions normally makes the Muslim parts, included terrorists, blame the other part so as to give the claim of jihad at least a demagogue’s made up reality of being a just war. Very convenient for anyone who needs warriors/soldiers – and a convenient incitement to war: All wars against “infidels” are “jihad” – with permission to rape and steal and suppress and murder - - - and guarantee for your going to Paradise if you are killed - just like the old Vikings. The good and benevolent Allah likes killers, thieves/robbers, rapists, apartheid, etc., etc. - at least when the dishonesty, atrocities and inhumanities are done in his honor.
####A fact to remember here is that it just takes a little dishonesty and demagogy to find an "explanation" for why even a not provoked attack - f.x. for stealing/robbing, slave taking and extortion - "in reality" is self defense. Of the some 82 armed "incidences" under Muhammad, only 3 - the battles of Badr, Uhud and Medina ("the Trench") really were battles of defense, and even these 3 were caused by provocations from Muhammad and his Muslims (their banditry towards caravans and villages). Nearly all the others were raids to steal and take prisoners for slavery or extortion + for raping girls and women if such ones were present.
**065 3/169a: “Think not of those who are slain in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they live - - - in the presence of their Lord (Allah*)”. What better can a warrior ask for? - and thinking like that, they made - and make - cheap soldiers for Muslim leaders. But what if Muhammad made it all up? - at least no god made the Quran with that many mistakes, etc. So where will all the Muslims in reality end if there is a next life?
##066 3/169b: “Nay, they (dead Muslim warriors*) live - - - in the presence of their Lord (Allah*)”. One more of the very many cases in the Quran where one has to say: If Allah exists. If Allah really is a god. If Allah is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran tells the full and only truth on this point.
067 3/170a: "They (killed Muslim warriors*) rejoice (in Paradise*) in the Bounty provided by Allah*. If Allah exists. If Allah is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran tells the full and only truth on this point. Also see 3/170b and 10/9f below.
068 3/170b: “They (the ones killed in war*) rejoice in the Bounty of Allah (an Earth-like luxury life + plenty of women – how that life is for the women, is of no consequence* - not worth even one question in all the Quran and all the Hadiths or anywhere else in Islamic literature we have seen) - - - (and*) the (martyrs) glory in the fact that on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve.” Psychologically a very good way for a leader to tackle and to prepare his followers for the fact that some warriors were going to die in the wars. There were little cause for sorrow and little cause for blaming the leader. But to be able to believe in this, take lots of naivety, blind belief and wishful thinking - just naivety is not enough.
##069 3/170c: The family and others left behind by dead warriors, have no reason to grieve - their dear one - the warrior - is in Paradise. Yes - if it really was a war for Allah, and not for power or riches for some leader. And if the Quran speaks the truth on this point at least. And if Allah is an existing god. And if f.x. if children without fathers find the situation attractive.
070 3/170d: "- - - (martyrs) - - -". All Muslims killed in war, are martyrs, no matter if it is a war of aggression or not, or even simply a raid for money and slaves – Muhammad made many such ones and called all of them jihads. It is like if the Christians should call everybody dead in a war with religious contents - f.x. the 30 Years War in Europe (1618-1648 AD) martyrs - or actually in all wars, as more or less all wars Muslims are involved in, are called jihads - "holy wars". Normally only innocent persons or persons killed in very special circumstances are martyrs. ###Wars of aggression, raids for stealing/robbing, etc. extremely seldom give martyrs in normal religions.
071 3/171a: “They (the “martyrs”*) glory in the grace and the Bounty (silver and brocade and women*) from Allah - - -”. The ultimate pep talk: Your son or husband or father is dead and you will never see him again, and he will never help you if you need - but he is in heaven according to a book with hundreds of mistakes, and told by a man with a very dubious morality.
072 3/171b: "- - - (in their (the claimed martyrs'*) bliss) - - -". This only may be true if Islam is a true religion with a real god, and if the Quran in addition has told everything correctly.
073 3/171c: "- - - in the grace and the Bounty (silver and brocade and women*) from Allah - - -”. One more of the very many cases in the Quran where one has to say: If Allah exists and is a god. If Allah is behind what is told in the Quran. And if the Quran tells the full and only truth on this point.
074 3/171d "- - - the fact that Allah suffereth not the reward of the Faithful to be lost - - -". Once again: If Allah exists, if he in case is a major god - - - and if the Quran tells the full and only truth without mistakes about this. And no matter: This sentence is a claim, not a fact.
075 3/171f: "- - - reward - - -". It is quite a "religion of peace" who gives its highest rewards to warriors, and mostly warriors of aggression.
But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)
076 3/172b: "- - - those who answered the call of Allah (for fighting*) and the Messenger (Muhammad*), even after being wounded - - -". This is one of the few places in the Quran where the 3. alternative; to be wounded is mentioned - normally only "the two glorious" alternatives victory and death (= Paradise according to the Quran) are mentioned. And here it is not mentioned as a possible outcome of a fight, but mentioned only to glorify the ones who fight on even if they are wounded. "The Religion of Peace"!??
077 3/172c: “Of those who answered the call of Allah and the Messenger even after being wounded - - - have a great reward.” No further comments, except that Muhammad needed only fighting warriors, and he seems to want to use his resources to the outmost.
078 3/172j: "- - - a great reward". Paradise. It takes a special kind of god and religion to have a paradise - and one full of mainly bodily pleasures only - as the reward for fighting and killing, raping and stealing, mutilating and suppressing. And to make it extra repulsive: All atrocities and inhumanities are to be done in the name of the god!
079 3/173a: “Men said to them: ’A great army is gathering against you’: - - - but it (only) increased their Faith - - -”. Pep talk. Real Muslims are not frightened - and Allah will help. Pep talk incites the warriors to keep fighting, and to wage war. This was of course necessary for Muhammad to gain personal security, power and riches. Like for many warlords at that time.
080 3/173c: "- - - it (the possibility of battle*) (only) increased their (good Muslims'*) Faith - - -". The religion of peace? The same god as in NT? No comment to any of the two questions. It would be a waste of time.
###081 3/174a: “And they returned (from war) with Grace and Bounty from Allah: no harm ever touched them - - -”. A fairy tale picture of war and easy riches. A good pep talk for recruiting new warriors if the men are uneducated and naïve. Glorifying war and spoils of war attracts new warriors. The larger the “army” the better chance of success and power for leaders.
But never a word about the catastrophes for the victims and for the destroyed lives and cultures, etc. Compassion and empathy nearly do not exist in the Quran - and definitely not concerning non-Muslims.
#####It is worth noticing that Muhammad and his followers behaved like Muslim gangs are doing today (2013 AD) in northeast Africa: Raiding - in this case especially people fleeing north from war and poverty - the weak ones. Muslims stealing what meager possessions they have, murdering, raping, gang raping, torture, extortion, slave taking, slave selling (yes, it goes on even today). This was the life of the semi-saint Muhammad the last 9-10 years of his life - Muslims were involved in some 82 armed incidences during that time, nearly all of them raids for stealing riches, for rape, extortion, and slaves. Muhammad personally led some 26 of them and personally raped at least two women (Rayhana bint Amr and Safiyya bint Huayay). #####Some morally perfect idol!
#####It also is very telling that as far as we know, Islam is doing little or nothing to stop those gangsters of today - and how can they? Those gangsters are behaving just like Muhammad did, and everything Muhammad did was perfect, "lawful and good".
082 3/174b: "- - - Bounty from Allah - - -". That the raids and wars with its stealing, raping, suppression, extortion and blood shall be in the name of the god, makes the whole "business" - the Quran's rules for waging war - even more disgusting. And are robbed goods, rape and slave taking in accordance with the moral and ethical codes in NT? - the claimed same god? Read the NT and check for yourself.
But notify how often "bounty" is mentioned in connection to propaganda for war in the Quran - the permission to steal from and to enslave the victims was one of the central arguments for alluring Muslim men to go on raids and to war. (And is the "bounty" really from a god when you have to go out and steal and rob and risk your life and health for it - and destroy other people's lives. Words and propaganda are cheap and incitements and temptation sometimes slick - and all such words even may be dishonest and untrue.)
083 3/|74e: "- - - Allah is the Lord of bounties unbounded". This may refer to the claimed next life or to the material fact that in and around Arabia there were rich people and countries to conquer and steal from or enslave, or to both.
084 3/195c: "Never will I (Allah*) suffer to be lost the work of any of you (Muslims*) - - -". If Allah exists. If he is a god. If he is behind the making and thus the texts of the Quran. And if the Quran in addition tells the full and only truth.
085 3/195d: “- - - those who have - - - fought or been slain – verily, I (Allah*) will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into Gardens - - -.” An unbeatable and cheap incitement for recruiting real believers to war: Be killed in war and go directly to Paradise no matter what great a sinner you have been before.
It definitely is no proved verity/truth.
##086 3/195f: “- - - those who have left their homes, or been driven out therefrom, or suffered harm in My (Allah’s*) cause, or fought or been slain - verily, I will blot out from them their iniquities, and admit them into (Paradise*)”. This has two messages: Persons who are persecuted for being Muslims and also warriors who go out to fight for Islam - they are the same, and 2): Both will end in Paradise. Many a terrorist has left his home, he may intend to fight - or at least call what he does a fight. With a bit of luck - or on purpose - he may die for the “cause”. Excellent - next stop is paradise, nearly no matter what sins you have done before. Did anyone say that the Quran had to be disused to incite to hate, killing, rape, war and terrorism?
But what if the Quran - and Allah - are made up? - at least the Quran with all its errors is not from any god.
087 4/46e: "We hear and we obey". This was the slogan Muhammad idolized for his followers. And who did they in case obey here on this Earth? - Muhammad.
088 4/94e: "- - - with Allah are profits and spoils abundant". Fight wars for Allah and get profits and spoils aplenty! Stealing/robbing, raping, enslaving, was an essential part of raids and wars for many of the warriors - and leaders. Compare this to NT and the New Covenant, and not even weeping can express the abyss between the religions. The same god?
089 4/57f: “- - - therein (Paradise*) shall they (deserving Muslim men*) have companions pure and holy (houris - sex slaves in Paradise*) - - -.” Houris are a bit special kind of women, but the “fact” that they are given to the men arriving in Paradise as repayment for good (?) deeds, tells kilometers about Islam’s view on women, about the Quran's moral code and about the Muslim Paradise.
090 4/64a: "We sent not a Messenger (included Muhammad*) but to be obeyed - - -". Obey Muhammad! - no comment. Well, one: Jesus - and many other Biblical prophets - said "follow me", not "obey me". There is a fundamental difference here. But "obey me" gives more power.
##091 4/71b: “O ye who believe! Take your precautions, and either go forth (in war*) in parties or go forth all together”. Be strong when you attack. "The religion of peace"? On the contrary - Islam is a typical religion of war. The only reason why this Islamic slogan is not dead long time ago, is that non-Muslims do not know the Quran well enough to laugh from that claim. (But beware that many Muslims also do not know the book well enough or are too indoctrinated, and are unable to see the hypocrisy - or al-Taqiyya (lawful lie) - in the claim. They simply and honestly believe it!)
092 4/74c: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - - -". Notice that the Quran never talks about the 3. alternative: The ones who becomes invalids. In any non-atomic battle there normally are to the size of 10 wounded for each killed. A good percentage of these will be so seriously hurt, that they never regain their health, and become a burden to their families instead of a plus. The book also never mentions the situation for families and children who have to live on with an invalid - or dead - father. May be Allah forgot this alternative?
093 4/74d: “To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah - whether he is slain or gets victory - soon shall we give him a reward of great (value) (= Paradise*)”. What can be a better reward - - - if it is true? And what can be a cheaper way for leaders to get warriors, than promises of payment in the next life? - especially if the religion is made up (and remember that this is likely, as the Quran with all its mistakes is from no god) and the Quran's paradise thus does not exist.
But if Yahweh and Jesus rule the perhaps next life, good Muslims will not find that the gate to Heaven opens automatically. And likely the same if other gods rule - the Quran is a bit too immoral and too inhuman for most religions.
094 4/75a: “And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah - - -?" The most clear-cut reason is that all the mistakes in the Quran makes it clear that something is seriously wrong + it makes it as clear that there is no god behind the book - no god makes such and so many errors. And when there is no god behind a religion, you do not fight for a god if you go to war.
095 4/75c: “And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men, women and children (crying for help and rescue*) - - -.” Muhammad’s version of the glorious hero on the white horse - and "forgetting" to add "- and power and riches for Muhammad". Another inciting dream "pushed" by good psychology - claimed help to women and children is a good motif.
096 4/75d: "- - - rise for us (the weak ones*) from Thee (Allah*) one who will protect, and raise us from Thee one who will help!" Guess if the warlord Muhammad here is telling that the warlord Muhammad is sent from the god, and that the weak ones are praying for help from the great warrior on the white horse - the warlord Muhammad - to help them!! Have you heard dictators glorifying themselves and glorifying war of aggression before?!
###097 4/76c: “Those who believe (Muslims*) fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith (non-Muslims*) fight in the cause of Evil: so fight ye against the friends of Satan - - -.” To say the least of it: The words are not to be misunderstood: Fight the non-Muslims, because they are the friends of Satan. Though we personally – and as far as we know also others – just wonder: Some great force or religion which teaches stealing, destruction, rape, enslavement, suppression, murder, hate, war – is that a god, benevolent something or not? – or is it a devil? – perhaps a devil in disguise?
###098 4/77b: “Our Lord! Why hast Thou ordered us to fight?” This is a question from a Muslim not wanting to fight (though see 4/77a just above) - and we should remember that after all today they are the majority (but the trouble for non-Muslims is that it is difficult and impossible to know who are terrorists, who are helping terrorists, who give money to terrorists, who has sympathy with terrorism and who are just plain - and often sympathetic - humans). But the verse makes it very clear - as do many other verses in the Quran - that war for the religion is a duty and an order. Who said that terrorists have to disuse the Quran to find incitement and reasons?
099 4/77d: “Short is the enjoyment of this world: the Hereafter is best for those who do right - - -.” You may flee from war in this short life – but those who go to war will have a much better next and everlasting life. Become a warrior and fight for Muhammad – and for Allah (if he exists). The ones doing right, are those who fight wars for Allah and for Muhammad. The religion of peace!?!
###100 4/78a: “Wherever you are, death will find you, even if ye are in towers built strong and high!” The predestination once more - Allah has decided when you are to die (Hadiths tell he decides on this - and on whether you are to end in Hell or Paradise - 5 months before you are born). You can as well go to war and do "good" things for Allah – and get rewards and spoils of war from him – because you will die no sooner and no later all the same. No comments should be necessary. Beware that this is the belief also today, even though it is ever so easy to prove by statistics - and also by simply using your brain - that this is wrong. If this is true, free will for man can walk away whistling a tune.
###101 4/84a: “Then fight in Allah’s cause - - -.” One more verse which contradicts and abrogates many of the peaceful verses from mainly Mecca and early Medina (this is from 626 AD and the harsher religion Islam had developed into). At least 10 contradictions and as many abrogations. Remember that when the Quran talks about fight, it normally always means armed combat (as opposed to NT where it refers to intellectual conflict).
###102 4/84b: “Then fight in Allah’s cause - - -”. The religion of peace? - from a good and benevolent god? All the same: The greatest religious deed according to the Quran.
103 4/84d: "- - - rouse the Believers (to armed combat*)". May be this is what some imams, mullahs and others are doing? Well, drop "may be".
104 4/84g: "It may be that Allah will restrain the fury of the unbelievers". Once more we are back to the fact: Not unless he exists and has the power to do this.
##### 105 4/89-90b: "But if they (Muslims*) turn renegades (leave/oppose Islam*), seize them and slay them wherever you find them; and in any case take no friends or helpers from their ranks; Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining from fighting you as well as fighting their own people." Such killing is totally opposed by the moral rules in NT - totally. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad thus not in the same religion - and then there are all the other proofs in addition.
**106 4/91a: “If they (“infidels”*) withdraw not from you, and nor give you (guarantees) of peace (remember that in nearly all the conflicts, the Muslims were the aggressors*) besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever you get them - - -.” No comments about “Let there be no Compulsion in Religion”. A clear and nice order. Not even an incitement, but an order. This verse contradicts (and abrogates) at least these verses (here are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51a, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5 in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran". (At least 88 contradictions).
##440 4/91b: "- - - seize them (unreliable non-Muslims*) and slay them wherever you (Muslims*) get them - - -.” Whoever believes NT and the Quran is from the same god, has never seen a Bible - let alone opened one. One more of the clear proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god.
107 4/94b: "When ye (Muslims*) go abroad in the cause of Allah (here: To wage war - this expression often in the Quran is synonymous with waging war*) - - -". When you go abroad for waging war, it normally is a war of aggression, not of defense - and this so definitely was the case for Islam, too. It is symptomatic that nearly all raids and wars of Muhammad, were wars of aggression - but named jihad (holy war) anyhow. Even the battles of Badr, Uhud and the Trench in reality were battles in a war of aggression started and kept alive by Muhammad's raids for wealth against Mecca's caravans, etc.
108 4/94e: "- - - with Allah are profits and spoils abundant". Fight wars for Allah and get profits and spoils aplenty! Stealing/robbing, raping, enslaving, was an essential part of raids and wars for many of the warriors - and leaders. Compare this to NT and the New Covenant, and not even weeping can express the abyss between the religions. The same god?
##109 4/95b: “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive in the cause of Allah with their goods and their person. Allah hath granted a grad higher to those who strive with their goods and their persons”. Clear words: Go to war or terrorism and end in a better part of Paradise - there are at least 4 or 6 different qualities of Gardens there + the higher heavens according to the Quran. Incitement “de luxe”.
110 4/95d: "- - - strive in the cause of Allah - - -". In the Quran this expression normally means to wage war on claimed behalf of Allah and Muhammad and later leaders.
465 4/95f: "Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive (fight*) with their goods and persons than those who sit (at home)". Strongly contradicted by especially in NT - in NT physical fighting is not accepted at all. One more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
#111 4/95g: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -.” Are any comments necessary? - except f.x. compare this to NT. The Quran is war and murder. Compare it to the pacifistic and anti-war NT or f.x. Buddhism!
What a nice verse for a terrorist!
But what if the Quran is a made up book? - by man or dark forces? (with all its mistakes, etc. it is not from any god). Where will Muslims end if there is a next life?
#112 4/95h: “Unto all (in Faith (= all Muslims*)) hath Allah promised good: but those who strive hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by special reward -". But what is such a promise worth unless Allah exists and is a powerful god?
But remember as for punishments and rewards - and forgiving: They cannot be given unless there are made changes in the Plan of Allah, which several verses in the Quran states nobody and nothing can make. (A predestined reward is not a reward, but theater.)
113 4/95+96a: “- - - those who strive hath Allah distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward – Ranks specially bestowed by Him (Allah*), and Forgiveness (for anything if you are killed in battle*) and Mercy.” No doubt who is the best Muslim and what is the best deed in Islam – the warrior and the war are most pleasing to Allah. (To call Islam “The religion of peace” is an insult to the intelligence of everybody who has read the surahs from Medina with an open mind.)
As for forgiveness see 2/187d above.
114 4/100a: “He who forsakes his home in the cause of Allah - - - should he die as a refugee from home for Allah and his Messenger, his reward becomes due and sure with Allah - - -”. Even if you do not die in battle, just die in war - f.x. from illness or accident - or if he has had to flee from persecution, it seems like you go directly to Paradise. (Perhaps this also goes for refugees). War for Allah really is valuable for Muslims - - - if the Quran tells the truth. A fact(?) any terrorist "knows" - most of them are Muslims.
115 4/100f: "- - - his (dead Muslim warrior*) reward becomes due and sure with Allah - - -". This only is possible if Allah exists and if he really is a god - there only are the words of a not reliable man seeking power for both.
116 4/101b: "- - - for the unbelievers are unto you open enemies." Not strange when you attack and rob them frequently enough.
117 4/101c: "- - - for the unbelievers are unto you open enemies." An unmistakable message - no good basis for building trust between religions, or for integration of Muslims in non-Islamic cultures. Hate mongering simply.
118 4/104a: "And slacken not in following up the enemy - - -". The religion of peace (!!). (Compare it to NT: Forgive your enemy.) And: Fighting non-Muslims - in the beginning mostly for stealing/robbing, raping, taking prisoners for extortion or slavery, later also for spreading Islam - was and is the greatest of religious deeds, according to the Quran.
119 4/104b: "And slacken not in following up the enemy - - -". Absolutely contradicted by NT. One more of the 100% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and in addition there are all the other proofs. Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
120 5/12g: “- - - and loan to Allah a beautiful loan - - -.” This normally is “Quran-speak” for “risk or lose your life in battle for Muhammad and Allah”. In just this case it is claimed to be said to the Jews of old times, which gave it double value: A good pep-talk and “documenting” that messengers wanting war, was nothing new. But these words are never used in the Bible.
121 5/35c: “Do your duty to Allah, seek the means of approach unto Him, and strive with might and mind (= make war*) in His Cause: that ye may prosper”. You prosper if you do like this. Islam after fighting non-religious knowledge for a few centuries (winning from ca 1100 AD - or actually 1095 AD in the eastern and central Muslim area and ca. 1198 in the western) found that there was no prosperity in thinking and researching and studying - except just studying and repeating the religion and related subjects - to fight and steal/rob/suppress/enslave on the other hand was good. The result was stagnation after some time, and not prosperity.
122 5/35d: “- - - strive with might and main (normally in the Quran this means “fight in war”*) in His (Allah’s*) cause.” A clear order. Islam "the religion of peace" like Muslims often claim? Or Allah a god of peace?
123 5/35f: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b just above*) in His (Allah’s*) cause: that you may prosper.” Fight for Allah (and Muhammad) – then you may get a prosperous life. The alternative - death - was glorious. The alternative war cripple is never - not once - mentioned in the Quran. Only the "two glorious fates": Rich from stealing/loot or dead and in Paradise. 20-30-40 years as a cripple dependant on others or as a beggar because you were too much hurt to work - may be in pain - such alternatives are never mentioned. The same for what about your children and your family if you are crippled or killed.
####124 5/35g: “- - - strive with might and main (see 5/35a-b just above*) in His (Allah’s*) cause - - -”. For us this is one of the most detestable points in all the Quran and Islam: Fight and steal and rob and mutilate and rape and enslave and hate and murder and suppress in the name of your god - a claimed good and benevolent god.
125 5/54e: “- - - fighting in the way of Allah - - -”. Unlike when you fight for Jesus and Yahweh - and many other gods - with your brain and words and good deeds, for your fights for Muhammad and Allah you fight with weapons and wage war and terror, and is paid by loot and rape and slaves - the laudable thing to do according to the Quran. Or - ?
126 6/33e: "- - - the wicked - - -". One of the many negative and discriminating names Muhammad had for non-Muslims. No wonder many Muslims do not want unnecessary contact with non-Muslims, and that some have a superiority complex towards them - and think it is ok to suppress or kill them.
127 7/34c: "- - - not an hour can they (humans*) cause delay, nor (an hour) can they advance (it in anticipation)." Predestination is absolute - man can do exactly nothing. This means that man’s claimed free will is an illusion. But it also means that war and battles are not dangerous - you do not die until your time is out, but then you die either you are in the midst of a hard battle, working in your fields, or sleeping in your bed. A very nice religion for a robber baron and for a warlord - wrong of course, which is easy to prove nowadays with statistics, but naive people even today may believe in it. But also see 7/34a above: Have prayers any meaning at all in Islam, when prayers can change nothing?
####128 8/1c: “They (the warriors*) ask thee (Muhammad*) concerning (things taken as) spoils of war (riches and slaves and sometimes land*). Say: (Such) spoils are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*)”. This is one of the rules Muhammad or the omniscient Allah had to change later (and not much later) - in the end Muhammad only got 20%, except if the victims gave in without a fight (then Muhammad still got 100%). (Islam has another explanation - all belongs to Allah, but 80% may be given to the warriors and to their leaders. But when a "may be" becomes a rule, it is not a "may be" any more). You meet Muslims saying Allah/the Quran never changed anything, but here is one point which was changed shortly afterward. Often Muslims explains changes with that the rules really were not changed, only made stricter or clarified (why should that be necessary for an omniscient god?) Here is an absolute rule which later had to be changed - the warriors demanded their share of the spoils. Besides: How primitive or greedy has a person to be in order to see a good and benevolent god in a god who permits stealing/robbing, rape, enslaving, suppression, murder, etc. in his name? Incompatible with NT.
####But there is another and very - extremely - serious point here: When raids and wars and slave-taking expeditions and whatever are planned and executed just for that purpose: To be able to see this as anything but plain and dishonest thievery or robbing, you have be a very special person or belong to a very special culture.
####It happens that Muslims ask about why on Earth they are disliked just because they are Muslims? #####Parts of the Quran's moral code explain a large percent of that question - it is too far from normal moral codes. (But Muslims are so used to it, that they are unable to see its excesses, dishonesty and inhumanity, and honestly believe it is a perfect and most honorable code.)
The permission to steal - take "spoils of war" - was a mighty incitement for many, both to (officially?) become a Muslim and to go on raids, etc.
####129 8/1d: “(The spoils of war*) “are at the disposal of Allah and the Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -.” All that was stolen and looted and robbed in raids and war included, slaves and prisoners for extorting money (this early – 624 AD – it mainly was raids to steal/rob/extort) belonged to Allah – represented by his envoy on earth: Muhammad. But his officers and warriors were too greedy to accept this – they wanted a share of the riches, too. So a bit later in the surah – a few “revelations” later (?) there came a contra order – and abrogation:
- ***8/41: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah - - -.” Muhammad had to give the warriors their share – except that he saved everything for himself in the cases where the victims gave in without fighting – then the warriors had done nothing and could not demand a share. Muhammad needed riches. Though it is likely it is true he was not much interested in much luxury, he needed riches for bribes/"gifts" and for waging war to get more power and more riches, included slaves – war cost money even if he paid his warriors with religion and religious promises, then all the same food and equipment cost money – and he needed riches for “gift” to attract more warriors/followers/believers and to keep some of the lukewarm-warm ones - - - and some for social use (help to the poor). Muslims tries to explain away this contradiction and abrogation by saying that it all belongs to Allah/the leader, but 80% is given to the warriors/robbers. But the moment it becomes a right for the robbers in raids and warriors in war, the rank and file’s share no longer belongs to the leader.
But remember that also stealing is dishonesty, no matter if you name it loot, spoils of war, or whatever.
130 8/1h: "- - - obey Allah and His Prophet (Muhammad*) - - -". A nice order for Muhammad, because here on Earth that in reality meant "obey Muhammad - completely (as he represent the god)". And Muhammad wanted raids for riches, etc. - a means to gain/buy power (and women).
###131 8/39a: “And fight with them (the Unbelievers who will not convert to Islam*) on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere”. Comments should be unnecessary. Fight war till Islam dominates everywhere. An order and an incitement.
We may add that “The Message of the Quran adds (remark 41 to surah 8) that only war in self defense is permitted, but self defense in “the widest meaning of the word”. And the “widest meaning” is a very wide expression – absolutely anything can be (and is) explained as being done in self defense, as the non-Muslims are the guilty ones for everything. One striking sample you may meet, is the “fact” that “all Americans are guilty of aggression against Islam and can be killed, because they pay tax to the state of USA”. No concession because they after all are forced to pay tax – few do it gladly. No concession to the millions that do not pay tax. No concession to the ones that oppose the war in the Middle East. Not even concession to the - still some millions (f.x. youths) - who do not pay tax (f.x. students) and in addition oppose that war. Everybody is guilty – slay them. That is how “in the widest meaning” sometimes is used. "Only in self defense" here in many cases simply is a bitter joke with no real meaning or value except as propaganda.
REMEMBER THAT THIS + THAT ALL NON-MUSLIMS SHALL BE SUPPRESSED AND PAY EXTRA TAX - JIZYA - "WITH WILLING SUBMISSION, AND FEEL THEMSELVES SUBDUED" (9/29), STILL IS THE OFFICIAL GOAL AND POLICY OF THE QURAN AND OF ISLAM, AND THAT DECEIT, TERROR AND WAR CLEARLY ARE OK MEANS TO THAT GOAL IN SPITE OF 2/256 (FROM BEFORE MUHAMMAD GAINED ENOUGH POWER) - THE WISH OR RECOMANDATION "LET THERE BE NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION" - AS THAT VERSE WAS ABROGATED (MADE INVALID) RATHER QUICKLY BY ORDERS TO FIGHT NON-MUSLIMS WHO DID NOT CONVERT TO ISLAM.
AS BAD: SIMILAR MEANINGS ARE EVEN TODAY AIRED BY LOTS OF IMAMS, MULLAHS AND OTHER MUSLIMS.
###132 8/40a: “If they (the enemy*) refuse (to stop fighting – and remember that for hundreds of years the Muslims mostly were the aggressors*), be sure that Allah is your Protector - - -.” Allah helps you in any fight against “infidels”- real defense or "defense in the widest meaning of the word" = attack or raids for wealth and slaves and power and for expanding Islam.
################The fact that Islam needs to add "in the widest meaning of the word" to the word "defense", documents that they know it often is not real defense.
133 8/41a: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” These 20% - 100% if the victim gave in without a fight - in reality were for Muhammad to use. Did he "demand no payment for what he did" like he claims some places in the Quran?
All this is totally foreign to Yahweh and Jesus - one more proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same religion: Too different moral codes, etc.
134 8/41b: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” Part of the background for paragraphs in the sharia law.
135 8/41d: “And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah (/Muhammad*) - - -.” Which means that 80% is for the warriors and leaders in the war – an economical incentive which for many a poor man counted much more than the religion – war and terror = good business. Many became well-to-do, many became rich, and some became very rich – and were dream models for new generations of robber warriors and robber barons. But Muslims and Islam never mentions the cost in destruction and destroyed lives which were the price millions had to pay for this unjust prosperity of the robbers and destroyers. It frequently took (the surviving) locals 100-200 years and more just to regain their standard of life, not to mention freedom. The warriors of the good and benevolent god of “the Religion of Peace” frequently mass murdered and massacred and enslaved “en gross” – and stole everything. Jerusalem f.x. got a hunger catastrophe after being occupied in 638 AD - the Muslims stole everything, included the food.
###136 8/57a: “If you gain the upper hand over them in war, disperse, with them those who follow them, that they may remember.” Many a Muslim warrior and warlord followed this order thoroughly – they certainly were remembered many places - - - except by all those who were dead. Sind (now approximately Pakistan), India, Armenia, Greeks in Turkey to mention a few - and not to forget Africa, included the slave hunters - tens of millions to the Muslim areas north of Sahara and in Asia (15 millions arrived alive according to Encyclopedia Britannica - the lowest number we have found (to all the Americas 14 mill. and a much lower death rate during transport, also this number according to E. B - the death rates during transports to Asia and Mediterranean Africa and especially the ones marching through Sahara, are so high that we are reluctant to believe it and therefore do not quote them)), plus the millions of slaves in Muslim areas south of Sahara. (The American and other slave traders seldom hunted for slaves themselves. They bought from local slave hunters - a large percentage of them Muslims.)
137 8/58b: “If thou fearest (“fearest” not “understandest” or “knowest”*) treachery from any group, throw back (their Covenant) to them, (so as to be) on equal terms: for Allah loveth not the treacherous.” – except Muslims - - - remember Muhammad’s betrayals and his words “War is betrayal” and "War is deceit" (Ibn Ishaq) Also remember al-Taqiyya (the lawful lies), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and Muhammad's use of deceit, and his advice about breaking ones promises, words and oaths if that gave a better result.
#138 8/60a: “Against them (the unbelievers*) make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, included steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies (and Muhammad’s enemies*) - - -.” Inside information from “the Religion of Peace”.
We may add the ####modern Muslim point of view ###########of today (YA1226): "It is your duty to be ready against all, for the sacred Cause under whose banner you are fighting". (YA1227): Be always ready to put your resources (wealth and life*) into your Cause. You will not do so in vain. Allah's reward will come in various forms. He knows all, and His reward will always be more generous than you can possibly deserve". (YA1228) "It (fighting for Islam*) should be a joyful duty not for itself, but to establish the reign of peace and righteousness (remember here that words like this is used in accordance with the Quran's partly immoral moral code*) and Allah's Law". There are more like this. Also today Islam really is "the Religion of Peace".
139 8/60b: "- - - strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies - - -). A very clear order.
140 8/60e: “Whatever (money, time or your life*) ye shall spend in the Cause of Allah, shall be repaid unto you, and ye shall not be treated unjustly”. Resources counts – for you to go to Paradise, for Muhammad (and Allah) to be able to make war. And warriors like you count – for you to gain loot or be sure to go to Paradise, for Muhammad (and Allah? – an omnipotent god really should not need war and mass murder and inhumanities? – especially not a good god,) to be able to make war and gain riches for f.x. “oiling” (bribes), and power and followers for his religion and platform of power.)
141 8/65d: “O Prophet! (Allah says*) Rouse the Believers to the fight.” A most clear order.
142 8/65g: “If there are twenty amongst you (Muslim warriors*), patient and persevering, they will vanquish two hundred (non-Muslims*), if a hundred, they will vanquish a thousand of the Unbelievers: for these are people without understanding”. A good pep talk, at least to blind believers. During the civil war in USA the South said something similar - but lost the war. But the Quran is right on one point: Non-Muslims tends not to understand the fanatic and fatalistic way of thinking impressed on Muslim warriors and terrorists - they go on and on and refuse to give in. On the other hand Japanese soldiers were just like that during WWII, but they all the same totally lost the war - even Americans were able to learn.
143 8/65-66: Pure pep-talk and war propaganda.
144 8/66b: “- - - but (even so (even if Allah has lightened the fight for you - by sending angle warriors?*)) if there are a hundred of you, they will vanquish two hundred, and if a thousand, they will vanquish two thousand, with the leave of Allah - - -”. Another pep talk, and somewhat more realistic than 8/65e above. Besides: If you lose, know that is was not the enemy who was too strong for you, but Allah in his unfathomable wisdom who wanted it like that. (And Allah always has a good reason leading to a final victory).
But why cannot an omnipotent god just decide how he wants things to be and make it like that? Why does a presumably good and kind and loving and benevolent and omnipotent god have to let humans live through so much blood and murder and hate and rape and misery? Something in the Quran just does not add up.
###145 8/67a: “It is not fitting for a Prophet (Muhammad*) that he should have prisoners of war until he hath thoroughly subdued the land”. One of the moral and ethical real pinnacles in Islam. It takes an effort - and resources - to take care of prisoners. This Muhammad did not like - and voila! - Allah ordered him to kill all prisoners (of course with the exception of the ones one wanted as slaves or wanted to keep for extorting money for from their families - or women and girls for "personal use").
No doubt at all: A morally and ethically superior prophet, god, and religion, and with lots of empathy - not to forget the perfect and good and kind and good-hearted Muhammad who was free from sins. (Actually there never were philosophers thinking on morality and ethics in Islam like f.x. in the old Greece or later in the West. Muhammad just picked from the contemporary traditions - in some cases he picked good ideas, in other cases he chose rather inhuman ideals, and that was it, as it never later has been permitted to think about whether his rules are good - or the best - or not.)
Does anybody wonder why Muslim warriors and terrorists sometimes murder prisoners - guilty or not?
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This is one of the most disgusting and revealing sentences in the Quran.
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######146 8/69a: “ "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, #######lawful and good - - -”. This is one more of the moral and ethical pinnacles in the Quran: Wage war, and then it is “lawful and good” to steal and rob and plunder and extort - and rape the women and girl children and take slaves. It actually is connected to 8/68a above, but like so often in the Quran specific episodes, etc, is given general meaning.
During war/raids and after conquests Muslims can steal ANYTHING they like, included raping women and girl children (history also clearly indicates that homosexuality was part of life for a percentage of Muslims) and - at least according to the Quran - take what slaves they want, and non-Muslim victims can say and do nothing about it. Yes, in principle Muslims can do this against non-Muslims any time they want, as long as they see to it that there are no Muslim witnesses - according to the rules non-Muslims cannot witness against Muslims.
But of course this made it easy and cheap for Muhammad and his successors to get warriors. That such behavior is a catastrophe for any and all victims - and in some cases set back the civilization may be some hundred years like in Persia/Iran (according to science it took Persia 100+ years to return to the level it had before the Arabs attacked) - does not count, as non-Muslim “Untermench” ("sub-humans" in Nazi German) do not count.
This even more so as for fanatics nearly every situation they do not like, can be defined as war against Islam “in the widest meaning of the word” - not to mention that according to Islam’s definition all areas not dominated by Islam are “land of war”. Really a morally and ethical superior religion - compare f.x. to the silly and invalid "Do unto others like you want others do against you", which many religions and culture have as their "constitution". And really a peaceful one.
And honestly the word “good” in ”lawful and good” classifies Muhammad, the Quran and Islam. Laws can be twisted and remade and it is no problem for an absolute dictator to make what laws he wants and thus make things “lawful” – quotation marks used on purpose. But the word “good” is an absolute – flexible “borders”, but fundamentally an absolute. Allah’s/Muhammad’s real rules for behavior against all outsiders is way outside “good”, and the hypocrisy in the using of abrogated verses in the Quran to make outsiders believe something else, makes this aspect of the religion and its hypocrisy even more disgusting.
This quote also tells a lot about the person Muhammad.
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Also: Combine this quote with Islam's slogan: "Islam is the Religion of Peace" and "Allah is good and benevolent" and weep - or laugh.
What lacks now is that Islam starts claiming that "Islam is the Religion of Honesty - no Lying, no Deceiving, no Stealing". (Remember here that looting and robbing both = stealing.)
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147 8/75b: "- - - fight for the Faith - - -". A clear order.
###148 9/5b: “But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and size them, beleaguer them, and lay in wait for them in every stratagem (of war.)”
#######This is “the Verse of the Sword” – the single verse in the Quran that is reckoned to contradict and to abrogate most peaceful verses of all the harsh and inhuman and bloody verses from the Medina period. Muslim scholars say it abrogates 124 verses in the book, We have seen no numbers for how many it contradicts, but hardly fewer (also all abrogations in reality are contradictions – that is why they are deemed abrogations: to make one or more of the contradicting points invalid so that it is possible to live and behave according to the book - - - and to claim there are no contradictions in it as the contradicting point is abrogated, though this last fact Muslims never mention).
There are so many verses that 9/5 contradicts, that we have not found all. But note that all abrogations also were contradictions before one or more of the contradicting verses were abrogated (which is one of the reasons why it is nonsense when some Muslims say abrogations do not exist in the Quran – abrogations mean Allah is not omniscient, but had to try and fail and/or changed his mind every now and then. Without abrogations you have a lot more of serious contradictions in the book, and which is worst of contradictions which make the book impossible to follow in life, or abrogations that at least makes you wind your way through life? (but shows that Allah often was unable to find the best solution with the first try)). You will find more in the chapter about abrogations in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran".
Surah 9, including 9/5, came in 631 AD and according to the Islamic rules for abrogations, this means that it overrides nearly everything in the Quran (as normally the youngest abrogates the older).
Some of the contradictions (many of them also abrogations) follow a little further down.
***149 9/5d: “- - - and lie in wait for them with any stratagem of war”.
- As the Quran overrides any earthly law or agreement, this sentence may nullify the laws of war.
- The laws of war have laboriously been agreed on little by little since the battle of Solferino and before, to make war a little less inhuman. Terrorists accept not one single of the rules, partly because of this verse. The more inhuman th2 better often. A good religion.
- This sentence is a clear “go ahead” for terrorists for absolutely any atrocity - in Europe or anywhere.
Nice neighbors (but just remember that only a few Muslims are that kind of neighbors - though it may at times be difficult to know who is who, and this is a problem for any non-Muslim).
150 9/5h: "- - - (use*) any stratagem of war - - -". Why do you think terrorists behave like they do, and why they to say the least of it do not respect the Geneva Conventions, and not behave like, but are depraved and degenerated "inhumans" - - - and heroes to many a Muslim?
151 9/12c: "- - - fight ye (Muslims*) the chiefs of Unfaith - - -". A clear order from the Religion of Peace".
152 9/13b: “Will ye (Muslims*) not fight people who violated their oaths (like Muhammad did himself*), plotted to expel the Messenger - - -". See 9/1e above.
153 9/13c: “Will ye (Muslims*) not fight people who violated their oaths (like Muhammad did himself*), plotted to expel the Messenger - - -". It should not be necessary to tell that this contradict at least NT very much. Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets? Simply no. We may add that in addition to Jesus' military pacifism contra Muhammad's dedicated war religion, and Jesus' line of total honesty, contra Muhammad's stealing/robbing, etc. and contra Muhammad's al-Taqiyya (lawful lie) and Kitman (lawful half-truths), etc. - though this was named and formalized later - there also is the difference in the view on keeping your word/promise/oath: here is not a little irony here, as Muhammad himself did not respect his own oaths very much - oaths could be broken if it paid better to do so, and then if necessary - if the case was serious - one could pay expiation afterwards and everything was and is good and fine. Compare this to f.x. Matt 5/33-37: You shall not even swear, but be fully truthful and keep and stay by your word. Jesus and Muhammad in the same line of prophets? A fantasy?
IT ALSO IS WORTH NOTING THAT IF NON-MUSLIMS BROKE THEIR OATH, IT COULD BE REASON FOR PUNISHMENT AND WAR, WHEREAS ACCORDING TO SEVERAL PLACES IN THE QURAN, MUSLIMS WERE PERMITTED TO DISUSE OATHS - PAY EXPIATION AFTERWARDS IF NECESSARY.
154 9/13d: “Will ye (Muslims*) not fight people who violated their oaths (like Muhammad did himself*), plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive lead by being the first (to assault) you?” The Quran says the best thing is to forgive - - - but why live according to one’s own words? To wage war and gain power for Muhammad and Islam is reality, the words are just words. And if you do not want to go to war, it is incredible! - you then are no good Muslim!!
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
155 9/14a: "Fight them - - -". A more direct order is not possible to get - - - and from the leader of the claimed "religion of peace".
156 9/14c: “Fight them (the not good Muslims*), and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame - - -.” A very clear order and piece of "information.
**157 9/14e: “Fight them (the “unbelievers”*), and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them - - -”. When you fight non-Muslims, you are doing the work of the good and benevolent god Allah.
Some religion: Hating, fighting, stealing, plundering, raping, enslavement, and murdering are the work of the god.
And remember: The “ethics” in the Quran was for then, for now and forever - for us and for our children and our descendants for all future.
“What a wonderful world!” to quote Louis Armstrong.
But why does an omnipotent god need humans for doing the killing and suppression?
*158 9/14f: “(Allah will*) help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of the Believers”. To murder or mass murder non-Muslims in battle or other ways - remember that Muslims are ordered to “lie in wait for them with any stratagem of war” (9/5) - plus a lot of the killing end other atrocities were done after the fighting was over - will heal the breasts of the good Muslims.
It seems us that Muslims living according to the Quran may be not the best of neighbors. (But again: Remember that only a minority live according to these parts of that book - though our dangerous difficulty is that it often is impossible to know who is who).
159 9/16b: “Or think that ye (Muslims*) that ye shall be abandoned (by Allah and not be rewarded for going to war*), as though Allah did not know those among you who strive with might and main (for the religion*)- - -.” But is the implicit claim here true? It only can be if Allah really exists and is a god, and if the Quran in addition has described him correctly - in a book full of mistakes, etc.
160 9/16g: "- - - strive with might and main - - -" = fight with everything you have got included your wealth and your life.
161 9/19f: "- - - strive with might and mind - - -". One of the Quran's orders and expressions for waging armed war.
***162 9/20b: “Those who believe, and suffer exile and strive with their might and main (= fight in raids/war*), in Allah’s cause, with their goods (= giving money to war expenses*) and their persons (= fighting personally in raids/war or terrorism - “any stratagem of war”*), have the highest rank in the sight of Allah - - -”.
Terrorists (- any stratagem of war" -) and other warriors are doubtlessly the very best Muslims.
In possible future times of troubles - remember that Muslims are ordered to make Islam the dominant religion and to suppress the members of all other religions - the few (? - 30% of Muslims “understands why terrorists do what they do“ according to international polls, tough that number varies some*) Muslims living according to the highest “ethics” for Muslims, will make a powerful and efficient 5. column in the West and other places. That is a simple military and security fact.
163 9/20d: "- - - strive with their might and mind - - -". A Muslim order and expression for taking part in armed raids, clashes, and war. The expression is not from the Bible.
164 9/20e: "(Warriors/terrorists*) have the highest rank in the sight of Allah". One more of the revealing fundamental points in the Quran. It is facts like these which tells the true story about Islam, not the cheap propaganda glorifications like "the very good man Muhammad" or "the Religion of Peace". And these many revealing points scattered all over especially the surahs from Medina, uniformly tell a dark story: A religion of war, suppression, apartheid - and not least about lawful dishonesty, lawful immoral and lawful inhumanity. (There are many parallels to Dings Khan's war religion, to Nazism and to apartheid. Islam also has a superiority complex against all non-Muslims - it f.x. is seriously debated f.x. in north Pakistan if even "the people of the Book" have half the value of a Muslim or less, and the Pagans are even worth far less).
*165 9/20g: “- - - they (terrorists/warriors*) are the people who will achieve (salvation)”. At least the Quran is honest about some things - just like Hitler was in “Mein Kamp” - - - and few did believe Hitler until it was too late.
And not least: It is repeating one of the main incitements to war for Muhammad/Allah.
*166 9/21a: “Their (terrorists/warriors*) Lord (Allah*) doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy (that terrorists/warriors for Allah are forgiven practically any sin*) from Himself (from Allah personally*), of His good pleasure (from the fighting and murdering they have done for the good and kind and benevolent god*), and the Gardens for them, wherein are delights (earth-like riches, luxury and women*) that endures”. The ultimate pep talk for war, terror and murder? In the name of a presumably peaceful religion and a kind and good god?
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
*167 9/21b: “Their (terrorists/warriors*) Lord (Allah*) doth give them glad tidings of a Mercy (that terrorists/warriors for Allah are forgiven practically any sin*) from Himself (from Allah personally*), of His good pleasure (from the fighting and murdering they have done for the good and kind and benevolent god*), and the Gardens for them, wherein are delights (earth-like riches, luxury and women*) that endures”. One more at least 110% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and for that the Jewish prophets, not to mention Jesus, were not in the same line of prophets as Muhammad claimed to be. See 9/20h above.
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
168 9/21f: "- - - Gardens for them (Muslim warriors and terrorists - through the centuries there have been many terrorists from Islam (f.x. the Assassins, but also warriors and "normal" people)*)". In the Bible it is not possible to go to Paradise as reward for war and terrorism and murder, etc. - and especially not in NT (a reason for thinking if the two gods had been one and the same: There may have been a reason why a god changed his teaching to a milder, but how to explain that an omniscient god like Allah is claimed to be, changed to softer, for than to become MUCH more bloody and spiteful and hateful than he ever was before?
169 9/21g: "- - - wherein (in Paradise*) are delights that endure". The delights in the Muslims' paradise are good food and drinks, excellent clothes, an excellent place to live, good weather and cool shades plus plenty of women for the men. More or less a poor, uneducated and naive warrior's dream of the life of a king or something here on Earth - an Earth-like and exceedingly boring paradise in long eternities. Is this the best an omniscient, omnipotent god has to offer? (And he has even less to offer women.)
*170 9/22a: “They (terrorists/warriors*) will dwell therein (in paradise) forever". 11/108c may indicate that Islam's Paradise is not forever.
*171 9/22b: “They (terrorists/warriors*) will dwell therein (in paradise) forever. Verily in Allah’s presence is a reward, the greatest (of all)”. Warriors/terrorists are in so high esteem in the eyes of Allah, that they will be invited to live in the parts of paradise that has Allah’s presence. (In the Muslim paradise some parts are even better than others - Jesus f.x. only lives in the 2. heaven, whereas Moses was a better prophet and lives in heaven number four, and top prophets like Abraham and Muhammad of course in number seven, closest to Allah, who resides above number seven. In addition some regions of the heavens are better than others - in the heaven for ordinary Muslims, there f.x. are 4 or 6 or perhaps more gardens - Islam does not know for sure - one better than the other (just hope you, your wives and your children do not merit different gardens).
Compared to 9/21 this may be an even more ultimate pep talk and carrot.
172 9/24e: "- - - or the striving in His (Allah's*) cause ("Quran-speak" for waging war*) - - -". Going to war for Muhammad/Allah gives top marks in the claimed "religion of peace". Guess if this is contradicted by the NT! Also see 67/9c below - a strong one. But of course it is ok for Islam to prove - prove - the Bible wrong and the Quran right. But as we say: Prove, not just loose claims and as loose and invalid words like the Quran always use instead of proofs.
173 9/25b: “Assuredly Allah did help you in many battlefields - - -.” – and consequently he can be expected to do the same in future battlefields. A good pep talk - but the claimed help never proved.
174 9/26c: "- - - forces which ye saw not - - -". Muhammad claimed that here like in some other battles Allah sent down large forces of angel warriors to help the Muslims in battles". But why take part in primitive battles, when he - Allah - "just can say 'Be' and it is"? Such claims about the necessity of wars and battles have no meaning when an omniscient god is involved. But if there was no god, but only a charismatic warlord pep-talking to his warriors, there suddenly is logic in it all.
175 9/28c: “Truly the Pagans are unclean - - -”. Pagans are the lowest caste in Islam - even lower than Jews and Christians (though in this case Jews and Christians are included). Not a negative name but a negative description - like so often when the Quran talks about non-Muslims.
####176 **9/29a: “Fight those who believe not in Allah - - -.” A most clear order - - - in spite of “no compulsion in religion” (2/256). One of those clear orders which shows reality and belies the glorious words. As said before: Whenever there is discrepancy between reality and propaganda, we believe in the reality.
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#########177 9/29c: “Fight those who believe not in Allah - - - until they pay jizya (extra tax - sometimes heavy (and there may be land tax in addition - often 50%)) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” A clear and unmistakable order. The softest word possible: Discrimination or apartheid. There are a number of stronger ones. And the jizya frequently was high. Comments on how it is to live under such helpless apartheid conditions is not necessary - the Negroes in South Africa or the Southern States in USA in earlier times could tell you - even though they at least did not have to pay an extra tax on top of all.
Also see other chapters (in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran") - f.x. “Muslims are better than other people”, like 25/44 or 68/35+36, and “Age Golden Age of Coexistence".
THE CLAIM THAT ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE, IS SERIOUSLY WRONG.
One more fundamental point: There NEVER was anything like this in the Bible - see f.x. Jesus' words: "Give to Caesar (meaning the emperor*) what is Caesar's and to Yahweh what is Yahweh's", and also the Bible's damning words about "serving Mammon (money*)". Allah's and Muhammad's greed for riches is one more of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad far from in the same religion.
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BUT THE MAIN POINT MAY BE THAT THIS IS THE MAIN AND CENTRAL POLITICAL MESSAGE AND ORDER TO ALL ISLAM AND ALL MUSLIMS THEN AND FOREVER - A FACT NON-MUSLIMS SHOULD BE AWARE OF AND N E V E R FORGET. THE OFFICIAL GOAL AND ORDER FOR ISLAM IS TO CONQUER EVERYTHING AND SUPPRESS ALL NON-MUSLIMS TO BECOME SLAVES OR SEMI SLAVES UNDER ISLAM, (and pagans worse off than Jews and Christians.)
This sentence must be seen in connection to 9/33j below.
This is the promised future for non-Muslims under Islam. A religion built on a "holy" book so full of errors that the book itself proves there is no god behind it. Perhaps the dark forces, but not any god.
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178 9/29d: “Fight those who believe not in Allah - - - until they pay jizya (extra tax - sometimes heavy) with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.” One of the elements in the sharia laws. But also extortion - and this tax is an extortion (and the same was the land tax you had to pay Muhammad or others for the permission to use the land/farm he/they had taken from you) - is dishonesty and stealing.
179 9/29j: "- - - (fight the non-Muslims*) (even if they are) of the People of the Book - - - ". Not to mention the Pagans. An order impossible to misunderstand - from the claimed "good an benevolent god" of "the (claimed) religion of Peace".
180 9/36f: “- - - fight the Pagans all together as they fight you all together - - -.” An order and an incitement too good to overlook – at this time (631 AD) Muhammad finally had got the upper hand, and from now on and for centuries to come, most wars the Muslims fought, were wars of aggression and wars of looting and plunder and enslavement + expansion and enlargement of power and of the religion.
###181 9/39a: “Unless ye (Muslims*) go forth (in war/battle for Islam/Muhammad*), He (Allah*) will punish you with a grievous penalty (normally in the Quran a synonym for Hell*) - - -”. An order not possible to misunderstand for a pious - or fanatic - Muslim.
Yes, a religion built on peace, goodness and heavenly moral and ethics.
THIS IS THE ORDER ALSO TODAY - JUST LISTEN TO SOME IMAMS, ETC. - see 9/38d.
THIS VERSE TELLS HORRIBLY MUCH ABOUT ISLAM AS IT IS TAUGHT IN THE QURAN.
VERSES LIKE THIS - THERE ARE MANY - AND QUOTES LIKE IN 9/38d TELL CHILLING FACTS ABOUT HOW ISLAM IS TAUGHT IN MADRASAS (RELIGIOUS SCHOOLS), MOSQUES, AND ISLAMIC MEDIA ALSO TODAY. WHEN THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NICE WORDS AND CLAIMS (F.X. "ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE") AND REALITY GIVEN IN TEACHING, IDEOLOGY, DEMANDS, AND ORDERS, WE ALWAYS BELIEVE IN THE REALITY.
One of the really strong proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - not to mention that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion.
Islam "the Religion of Peace"? Do not laugh - it is impolite.
182 9/41a: “Go ye forth (whether equipped) lightly or heavily, and strive and struggle (= fight*), with your goods and your person (money and life*), in the Cause of Allah. That is best for you, if you but knew”. Any comment necessary? The benevolent "Religion of Peace"?
Islam "the Religion of Peace"? Do not laugh - it is impolite.
183 9/41b: "That (to go to war*) is best for you - - -". See 9/41a just above.
184 9/42a: “If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed you (Muhammad*) - - -". An indirect, but clear confirming of the fact that many of Muhammad's warriors followed him for the loot, etc. he promised - a fact Muslims deny.
**185 9/44a: “Those who believe in Allah and the Last Day ask for no exemption from striving with their goods and persons (= waging war*)”.
If you are a real Muslim, you do not refrain from going to war.
186 9/44d: "- - - striving with their goods and persons". This is Quran-speak for using ones wealth and risking one’s life in war for Allah - or if Allah does not exist, at least for Muhammad.
There is nothing like this in Jesus' words - on the contrary, Jesus accepted no armed fighting. One more of the strong indications for that Jesus and Muhammad were not in the same religion.
187 9/44e: “And Allah knoweth well those (the Muslims going to war for Allah/Muhammad*) who do their duty”. It is not possible to deny - like most Muslims and many politically correct others try to do today - that war (against “unbelievers”) is a duty for Muslims. It is impossible to say it more directly than the Quran does here. And also that Allah knows the ones who goes to war - and the ones who do not. Ominous for the ones who do not. Also see 2/233h above. "The Religion of Peace"? - do not laugh, it is impolite.
##188 9/45a: “Only those ask thee (Muhammad*) for exemption (from doing battle*) who believe not in Allah and the Last day”. Terrorists and fanatical mullahs/imams are right and do right according to the Quran, because the Quran is pretty clear on what it means. And the ones only claiming there are verses which can be disused by terrorists to defend their activity are pretty naive and without knowledge about the book. "The Religion of Peace"? This claim is an insult to anyone who has read the surahs from Medina with an open mind.
189 9/46b: “If they (the ones reluctant to go to war*) had intended to come out (to the battlefield*), they should certainly have made some preparations therefore; but Allah was averse to their being sent forth, so he made them lag behind - - -”. Pep talk about the ones not wanting to go to war ‘do not mind them - they are bad quality Allah did not want’ - no reason to lose your nerve. But if it was Allah who made them lag behind, why then punishment of men for it?
190 9/47c: “But Allah knoweth well those who do wrong (= those not wanting to go to war*)”. The terrorists are right: It is not the terrorists who do wrong, it is the ones reluctant to murder and kill and fight. Really a religion for peace and goodness run by a benevolent god. The sentence also is a warning: Go to war, or else - - -!
191 9/49c: “(Many say*) ‘Grant me exception (from going to war*) and draw me not into trial’. Have they not fallen into trial already?” The Muslims not wanting war are already judged and doomed.
######BUT THERE IS AN EXTRA POINT HERE: MUSLIMS SHOULD NOT BE JUDGED BAD JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE MUSLIMS - WITH A PARTLY HORRIBLE MORAL CODE, ETC. - THE MAJORITY IS JUST AS HUMAN AS NON-MUSLIMS, and f.x. not wanting wars.
192 9/49f: "Have they (the ones not wanting to go to war*) not fallen into trial already?" Indication: They have been tried by the order to go to war, and found that they are proved to be "too light" and wanting in the eyes of Muhammad and Allah by asking exemption.
193 9/51b: “Nothing will happen to us except what Allah has decreed for us - - -”. Predestination: To do battle is not more deadly than sleeping in your bed, as Allah already has decided your hour of death. Naïve and uneducated people and religious fanatics may really believe this - in those cases it is one terrific piece of pep talk for not being afraid of doing battle.
194 9/51c: “Nothing can happen to us except what Allah has decreed for us - - -”. Well, Islam tells it is the free will of man that brings on bad incidents in life. This verse contradicts that, to say the least of it. So just go safely to war.
A warrior or terrorist can only win - riches and glory or Paradise.
195 9/52a: “Can you see for us (Muslims*) (any fate) other than the two glorious things – (martyrdom or victory)?” Definitely yes: We can see the war cripple. We can see the families destroyed because the husband/father is dead – or a cripple. We can on the other hand see men building their country instead of destroying neighboring countries - or at least leaving their neighbors in peace, so that the neighbors can build their countries. And we are able to see the price of war: Brutalized humans and destruction – a war never builds anything, it destroys. And we also can see the second possibility the Quran never mentions, except as minor set-backs: Defeat. It may give some of the victors a chance to steal and suppress and become rich – but for a terrible price for others. But this price the Quran never mentions and never cares about - it is as said paid by others.
***Islam seems to represent such a backward culture, that its members were and to a large degree are unable to see - or care for - what catastrophes and destroyed lives they inflict on others, as long as they themselves become rich and perhaps powerful. No price is too high for a good life and riches - - - as long as others have to pay for it.
Well, to inflict the religion on others also counts and counted for some of them. A religion built on a book so full of mistakes, contradictions and other errors, which it is not from any god.
Islam "the Religion of Peace"? Do not laugh - it is impolite.
####196 9/52c: "But we (Muslims*) can expect for you (non-Muslims*) either that Allah will send his punishment from Himself, or by our hands". The last part of the sentence means that when Muslims are fighting or in other ways are being adverse to non-Muslims, they are doing the work of Allah - punishing them for him. Mistreating, raping, extorting, suppressing, torturing, murdering non-Muslims are sermons to Allah! Comments? Yahweh and Allah the same god? Jesus and Muhammad in the same religion?
Islam "the Religion of Peace"? Do not laugh - it is impolite.
***197 9/73b: “Strive (fight*) hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites - - -.” Straight words for your money.
198 9/73e: "- - - be firm against them (non-Muslims and hypocrites*)". When the idol Muhammad should be firm against them, of course all other Muslims should be the same.
199 9/81h: This verse in short: The ones not willing to do battle may end in hell. Do you want end there?
200 9/83-84: The ones not willing to do battle are to be socially despised. No comments necessary, except that there is at least one grotesque example of this social punishment, not to say terrorizing, in Hadiths. Incompatible to NT.
201 9/86a: “When a surah comes down (to Muhammad*), enjoining them to believe in Allah and strive and struggle (= make war*) with His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - - (some do not want to go to war - they prefer to stay with the women, not a nice reputation for an Arab in 631 AD, not to mention for a Bedouin warrior*)”. ###But after all not every Muslim liked – or likes – war.
202 9/86c: “When a surah comes down (to Muhammad*), enjoining them to believe in Allah and strive and struggle (= make war*) with His Messenger (Muhammad*) - - -". Nearly as far as possible away from the NT as it is to come. The same god? The same line of prophets? Possible to believe if you are naive.
203 9/88a: “But the Messenger (Muhammad*), and all those who believe with him, strive and struggle with their wealth and their persons (= wage war*): for them are (all) good things (like spoils of war, slaves, women to rape, etc.*): and it is they who will prosper”.
To say the least of it: Incitement to wage war for Muhammad/Islam. But NB: This claim was never proved - it just is words. Except that many grew rich from stealing, extortion, slave taking, etc. in this world.
204 9/88d: "- - - strive and struggle with their wealth and their persons - - -". An expression used in the Quran rather frequently. It means to use of your wealth to enable yourself to go to war and or help Muhammad to finance his wars, plus take part in the war or raids yourself.
205 9/89a: “Allah hath prepared for them (his warriors/terrorists) Gardens under which rivers flow, to dwell therein: that is the supreme felicity”.
Once more - to say the least of it: Incitement to wage war for Muhammad - and for Allah if he exists. On the other hand: How will "life" in such a boring paradise be in the long run - no mental activity at all?
Of course points like this also influence the moral code of Islam.
206 9/91h: Verse 9/91 in short says that only those with heavy reasons for staying at home when Allah - Muhammad - wants a raid or a war, were to be excused for not joining the raid or war party.
207 9/93a: “The ground (of complaint (for not wanting war*)) is against such as claim an exemption while they are rich - - -”. If you can afford to go to war - or if someone, included the leaders (see 9/92) can help you - then it is a valid reason for complaint and contempt against you if you do not want to go to war.
##208 9/93b: "They (the ones not wanting to go to war, but without a "good" reason*) prefer to stay with the (women) - - -". An expression of contempt in many cultures and - as far as we have been able to find out - in all war cultures. (Unnecessary to say: Islam was/is one of the more extreme war cultures, as the war part of it is religiously motivated and very strong and central in the religion.)
####209 9/93d: "- - - they (the ones not wanting to go to war*) know not (what they miss)". Comment YA1345: "It is not only a duty, but a precious privilege, to serve a great Cause (Islam*) by personal self-sacrifice (to make war for it*). Those who shirk such an opportunity know not what they miss". This is the point of view of modern Muslim scholars - as mentioned before the comments are recent ones. "The Religion of Peace"? No further comments - and none necessary.
210 9/94a: Do not believe the excuses from the ones not wanting to go to war - the real reason is that they are bad Muslims.
A good Muslim goes to war whenever his leaders call. Yahweh and Allah the same god? No answer is necessary.
#211 9/95ca: “So leave them (the ones not wanting to wage war*): for they are an abomination, and Hell is their dwelling-place - a fitting recompense for the (evil) they did”. Incompatible to the Bible to say the least of it, and especially to NT. But words impossible to misunderstand. Anybody believing that the Quran has to be disused to find incitements to war and hate and blood and murder?
"The Religion of Peace"?
212 9/95e: "- - - Hell is their (not good Muslims not wanting to go to war*) dwelling-place - - -". Clear words for your money: If you are fit and can afford it: Go to war or go to Hell. Did anybody whisper the words "the Religion of Peace"?
**213 9/96: “- - - Allah is not pleased with those who disobey (and refuse to go on raids or to war*)”. The good, kind, wise god - leading a "Religion of Peace"?. The question is especially relevant as most of Muhammad's raids were for riches, captives, slaves, and extortion. And another fact: Here on Earth the sentence simply meant and means that Allah is not pleased with those who did/do not obey Muhammad and his successors.
214 9/111a: “Allah hath purchased of the Believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the Garden (of Paradise): they fight in His (Allah’s) Cause, and slay and are slain (and go to Paradise afterwards*) - - -.” It may be a good, if de-humanizing (war mostly is) deal - - - if Allah and the Paradise exists. If not the only person gaining anything was Muhammad (and all the mistakes, etc. in the Quran proves absolutely that at least something is seriously wrong).
215 9/111d: “- - - they (warriors/terrorists*) fight in His (Allah’s (or Muhammad’s?*)) cause, and slay and are slain: (and get a great reward in Paradise*)”. Can anyone really read the Quran - even a Muslim - and afterwards believe the Quran represents a good, peaceful, benevolent god? One is reminded of the blood orgies of the Mayas and Incas, except that Islam mostly kills on the spot - like the Assyrians. And "the Religion of Peace"?? - it is up to you if you will laugh or weep from that slogan. May be there are reasons why they seldom claim Islam is "the Religion of Honesty"?
216 9/120c: “It was not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighborhood, to refuse to follow Allah’s Messenger (to wage war - it refers to the expedition to Tabuk*) - - - “. See 9/98c above.
217 9/120c: “It was not fitting for the people of Medina and the Bedouin Arabs of the neighborhood, to refuse to follow Allah’s Messenger (to wage war - it refers to the expedition to Tabuk*) - - - “. See 9/98c above.
218 9/120e: “It was not fitting for (them - see 9/120a just above*) to refuse to follow Allah’s Messenger, nor to prefer their own lives to his - - -”. Incitement to war. What does just this tell about Islam? What it does tell about Muhammad and Islam is that the Quran is - not a fairy tale, but a demon tale?
And: Make Muhammad a powerful warlord! Hitler said similar things (actually some intellectuals - f.x. C. G. Young - compared Nazism to Islam before WW2.)
And: If Allah does not exist, it all was done only for Muhammad.
219 9/120g: “- - - (not*) to refuse to follow (in war) Allah’s Messenger (Muhammad*), nor to prefer their lives to his: because nothing could they suffer or do, but was reckoned to their credit as a deed of righteousness - - - in the cause of Allah - - -”. A testimony of religious blindness and darkness worthy any of the most bloody pagan religions - or modern sects praying to the Devil for a god. Or the darkest sides of Nazism or communism.
And: If Allah does not exist, it all was done only for Muhammad.
220 9/121a: "Nor could they (Muslims*) spend anything (for the Cause (of Allah/Muhammad*)) - small or great - nor cut across a valley, but the deed is inscribed to their credit - - -". Words are easy when one neither has to pay them or prove them. And when you read the Quran you may notice that everything is built on never proved claims and promises only.
221 9/121b: "- - - Allah may requite their (warriors') deeds with the best (possible reward)." A nice reward if Islam is a true religion. A very cheap way for Muhammad to attract and pay warriors if the religion is a made up one. And here it is very thought provoking that the Quran is not from a god - no god makes that many mistakes, not to mention reveres them in a "mother book" in his heaven. (And no benevolent god has a moral code and war code like in the Quran).
#222 9/123c: “Fight the Unbelievers who gird you about, and let them find firmness in you: and know Allah is with those who fear Him (= the Muslims*)”. If "I" do not like what you do - or if "I" use a little conspiracy theories, like Muslims and especially the ones in the Middle East often do, and think you are up to bad things, you surely are girding "me" about, and it is "my" right according to the Holy Quran to kill you.
223 22/58a: This is one of the verses from 624 AD: "Those who leave their home in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die - on them will Allah bestow, verily, a goodly Provision (Paradise*) - - -". This is the flagship of the revised Islam: Be killed in war for the religion, and you go directly to the paradise, no matter how big a sinner you are. A very good claim - though never proved - for Muhammad and later warlike rulers who needed warriors. And very telling about "the Religion of Peace" and about the claimed "good and benevolent god" Allah.
There is nothing similar in the Bible.
224 22/58b: This is one of the verses from 624 AD: "Those who leave their home in the cause of Allah, and are then slain or die - on them will Allah bestow, verily, a goodly Provision (Paradise*) - - -". Why did it take 14 - 15 years from Muhammad started his mission till he mentioned this for the first time, even though it is one of the central "facts" in the revised Islam?
(Beware that even though Muhammad started his mission in 610, he was not very active outside his family and nearest ones the first few years. But also later he did not mention the above until he started needing warriors.)
225 22/58d: "- - - on them (Muslims killed for Muhammad*) will Allah bestow, verily, a goodly provision - - -". If he exists, if he is a major war god, and if the Quran has told the truth and only the truth about this.
***226 25/57a: “No reward do I (Muhammad*) ask of you - - -“. Nothing - - - except 20% of everything stolen or extorted in/after raids and wars, 100% of what was looted or extorted without fighting, plenty of women and total and unrestricted power - also Muhammad had a strong motif for making raids, etc. (He in addition had 2.5% (up to 10%) of your possessions each year in “poor-tax” - - - partly for the poor, but also at least as partly to pay the lukewarm to become or stay Muslims, and not to forget to use for waging war. And a little to himself and all his women and few children (may be not of the "poor-tax", but plenty from the looting - Muhammad f.x. had estates 3 different places (Medina, Khaybar and Fadang), something which is never mentioned by Muslims, when they talk about how poor he was personally). Hypocrisy.
****To be exact the "poor-tax" - zakat - according to Hadiths after Al-Bukhari (comment 1 to Chapter 24) is for 8-9 different purposes:
- Help the "Fuqara" - a category of poor people.
- Help the "Al-Masakin" - another category of poor people. (These two points = the purpose of helping the poor. Lump them together, and you get 8 purposes.)
- Paying the persons administrating the zakat. (Originally Muhammad).
- Bribing people to become Muslims and in other ways to promote Islam.
- Bribing lukewarm Muslims to stay Muslims.
- To free Muslim captives.
- To help indebted persons.
- To wage war for the religion - and for its leader(s).
- To assist travelers (often pilgrims to Mecca).
It seems that a sizable percentage was used for points 4, 5, and 8. (You also will find claims that there are 5 purposes for the zakat. Then they lump 1 and 2 together and omit something - often 6 and 8. We some places in this book have used that list.))
227 29/6a: “And if any strive for (with might and main) - - -". This is an expression which in the Quran normally means fight in raid or war (raids mainly were for stealing and for taking captives for extortion or slavery).
228 29/6b: “And if any strive for (with might and main), they do so for their own souls - - -“. If you f.x. go to war or take part in raids, you gain merit with Allah. ("The Religion of Peace"?)
###229 33/60e: "- - - We (Allah*) shall certainly stir thee (Muslims*) up against them (bad or not Muslims*) - - -". To twist an old proverb: This sentence alone tells more than a 1000 choice slogans about "the religion of peace". What you say when you forget to guard your words or do not think it necessary, always by far is more reliable than carefully chosen claims. Also see next comment just below.
###230 33/61a: “They (hypocrites - not good enough Muslims – or non-Muslims*) shall have a curse on them whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy).” If you are not good enough Muslims – and sometimes others – you are to be killed without mercy. A most clear order. Only do not mention it, because the propaganda lines are f.x.: “The Religion of Peace” and “No compulsion in Religion". This verse contradicts (and abrogates) at least these verses (here are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5. (At least 91 contradictions).
###231 33/61b: “- - - whenever they (hypocrites and non-Muslims, whoever decides whom they are*) are found, they shall be sized and slain (without mercy)”. A good verse for many a mullah and imam and for terrorists - and for starting pogroms. What disturbs us is that this may be the future many places, as the Quran is forever.
###232 33/61c: “(Hypocrites and non-Muslims and those who make unrest*) shall have a course upon them: wherever they are found, they shall be sized and slain (without mercy)”. More plainly it is difficult to tell it - and who is to decide what is unrest and who starts and continues it? Pogroms happen - f.x. in Indonesia and Malaysia against Chinese not long ago - they were richer than the Muslims (Chinese work more and often have more education). Will there be unrest against others because they are richer than Muslims somewhere in the future? - or simply because non-Muslims never should be the boss of a Muslim (not likely to be a rule today, except perhaps in conservative areas, but it used to be a rule during for hundreds of years many places)?
####233 33/61d: “(Hypocrites and non-Muslims and those who make unrest*) shall have a course upon them: wherever they are found, they shall be sized and slain (without mercy)”. We intended to ask you compare this to NT, but such a comparison is not possible. At least a 200% proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad morally not even distantly connected.
###234 33/61-62: “They (non-Muslims, hypocrites, etc.*) shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be sized and slain (without mercy) (‘no compulsion in religion’ 2/256*). (Such was) the praxis (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime (f.x. Jews and Christians*). Muhammad claimed that Allah was just another name for Yahweh – but try to find an order telling that all non-Christians shall be murdered “without mercy” in NT and in the new covenant (f.x. Luke 22/20 in NT) - a covenant Muslims never mention - and NT is what Christianity is built on . Oh, we know very well that persons from Christian countries have done bad things, but that was in spite of their religion – and they were not really Christians deep down – and not in accordance with, or even because of the religion, like the case often is with the “religion of peace” (Muslim-speak for camouflaging the “religion of war”) Islam.
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###235 33/62a: “(Such was) the practice (kill non-believers without mercy*) (approved) of Allah among those who lived aforetime: no change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah.” Muhammad here refers to the Mosaic and the Christian religions (and he wrongly sets Allah = Yahweh) when he talks about “those who lived aforetime”. But even though OT is hard against many non-Jews, the war and the killing was to get room for living for the Jews, not wanton murdering just because they were not Jews or for plunder and slaves. And in NT: Try to find a single place saying that non-believers shall be murdered just because they have another religion – such an order simply does not exist. (There are 1-2 places in the OT where Yahweh disliked that the Jews did not kill many enough of the enemies, but because the survivors represented future problems, not because they refused to change religion.) The Quran here actually is a 180 degree contradiction to the very core of the teachings of Jesus.
Any god had been lying if he said this, but Muhammad did not know the Bible well, so may be – just may be – he thought from wishful thinking that he spoke the truth, but no matter he was too intelligent not to know he had no reliable source for the claim. ###Correction: This surah is from 625-629 AD = Muhammad now knew more than enough from the old Jewish scriptures and knew he was lying. In any case it was a good statement for a warlord trying to secure and enlarge his platform of power; Self-centered. Selfish? (This surah like said is believed to be from 625 – 629 AD – before he had gained absolute control by conquering Mecca.)
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236 33/62b: “Such (to kill non-Muslims not living according to Islam’s laws of suppression of non-Muslims*) was the practice (approved) of Allah among the ones that lived aforetime: ####no change wilt thou find in the practice (approved) of Allah (now or in the future*)”. #####If Islam/Muslims grow strong enough some time, this is what to expect, according to their holy book - "no change" of course. How had the world looked today, if the industrial revolution with its superior weapons, ships and economic and military superiority had happened in the Muslim area? - Islam has no moral, ethical, empathetically, ideological or philosophical ideas against suppressing other people - on the contrary it is a religious duty. Actually Islam has no moral or ethical philosophy at all - that was decided once and for all before 1100 AD by the religion, with al Ghazali - "the greatest Muslim after Muhammad" - as the grave digger for philosophy in Islam with his book "The Incoherence of the Philosophers". (There were a few thinkers for some more time - about 100 more years - in Spain, but they got little influence on the mainstream Islam).
237 33/62c: "- - - no change wilt thou (Muslims/Muhammad*) find in the praxis (approved) of Allah (to kill non-Muslims*)". Wrong to say the least of it. Read the NT - it is so different from the war religion of the Quran, that it is not a question of finding changes, but if there exist basic similarities at all. The praxis approved of Yahweh is extremely different from the one approved by Allah - that is to say; Allah has approved nothing if he does not exist.
##########This is one of Muhammad's lies in the Quran. But he knew the Bible so little, that in this case he perhaps was not sure he was lying - but he was too intelligent not to know that this was a claim he made without a reliable source. Correction: This surah is from 625-629 AD. At that time Muhammad was well aware of that there were big differences between his teaching and the Bible. Muhammad knew he was lying.
238 34/4b: (A34/3): “That He (Allah*) may reward those who believe and work deeds of righteousness - - -.” Yes – but where? Many or most scholars say “in Paradise” – this has the extra benefits that the promises of luxury can be bigger, and one does not have to explain why pious people often are not very well off. But others – like Razi – claims it is in this world, with the good feelings one have when one believes strongly, as the main benefit. The text itself is silent about the mystery. And these variants also are in the Arab text, as the relevant word(s) there has more than one meaning. Unclear language.
And the most righteous deed was to go to war.
239 34/37d: "- - - there is a multiple Reward for their (good Muslims'*) deeds - - -". The Quran some places tells that the value of good deeds will be multiplied at the Day of Doom. (Thus it is easy to be accepted to the Quran's paradise - see 10/9f above - IF the Quran tells the full truth and only the truth).
And remember that the best of deeds is to go to war for Allah - "a multiple Reward" may mean loot and slaves/women and Paradise.
**240 47/4b: “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight (and remember the Muslims practically always were the aggressors – to gain riches and slaves and power, though called holy wars - - - and some new proselytes*)), smite at their necks - - -.” Surah 47 is from 622 AD and Mecca, but some verses likely from Medina – and it is possible to see the change towards war already. It contradicts and abrogates a lot of peaceful verses. This verse contradicts (and abrogates) at least these verses (here are 88 out of the 124 Muslim scholars say are abrogated by 9/5): 2/109, 2/190, 2/256, 2/272, 3/20, 4/62, 4/81, 4/90, 5/3, 5/28, 5/48, 5/99, 6/60, 6/66, 6/70, 6/104, 6/107, 6/112, 6/158, 7/87, 7/188, 7/193, 7/199, 8/61, 9/68, 10/41, 10/99, 10/102, 10/108, 11/12, 11/121, 13/40, 15/3, 15/94, 16/35, 16/82, 16/125, 16/126, 16/127, 17/54, 18/29, 18/56, 19/39, 20/130, 21/107, 21/112, 22/49, 22/68, 23/54, 23/96, 24/54, 26/216, 27/92, 28/50, 28/55, 29/18, 29/46, 32/30, 34/25, 34/28, 35/23, 35/24a, 36/17, 39/41, 41/34, 42/6, 42/15, 42/48, 43/83, 43/89, 44/59, 45/14, 46/9, 46/135a, 46/135b, 46/135b, 50/39, 50/45, 51/50-51, 51/54, 52/45, 52/47, 53/29, 67/26, 73/10, 73/11, 79/45, 86/17, 88/22, 109/6. They are all quoted under 9/5. (At least 91 contradictions).
###241 47/4c: This is a really serious one: “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; at length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them) - - -.” BUT OUR SOURCES TELL THAT THE WORDS “(in fight)” IS NOT WRITTEN IN THE ARAB TEXT – IT IS ADDED BY THE TRANSLATOR (and by more than one). Muslims primarily shall read the Quran in Arab, and there in case our sources are correct the text is: “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, smite at their necks - - -“. It in case simply is a permanent order to be aggressive.
The real religion of peace. Not to mention a real god of peace.
Al-Taqiyya is the name for "lawful lies" in Islam, and are advised to be used "if necessary" to defend or promote the religion.
######The world should never forget that Islam in Medina was turned into a religion of hate, superiority claims, apartheid, suppression, blood and war, and that this is the Quran and Islam also today, as the surahs from Medina according to Islam's rules for abrogation (making points in the Quran invalid) supersedes the ones from Mecca, because the ones from Medina are younger. Neither should the world ever forget that the Quran and Islam accept the use of dishonesty as a working tool, if that gives a better result - even advice to use it in some cases "if necessary" (to defend or promote Islam). ########Most Muslims are ok persons, but one should never forget neither the demands for war and suppression nor the moral code in the Quran.
242 47/4e: "- - - when ye (Muslims*) have thoroughly subdued them (non-Muslims*) - - -". "The religion of peace"? "Let there be no compulsion in religion"? When there are contradictions between glorifying words and dark reality, we always believe in the reality.
243 47/4f: "- - - (- - - time for) either generosity or ransom - - -". When the battle or raid or war was over, it happened some of the prisoners were set free, either from generosity or other reasons or simply because the prisoners and their families were too poor to pay ransom. But often it was a question of extortion: Pay ransom or else - - -".
What the Quran here does not mention, is that there were two more options which were frequently used: Kill the prisoners - later it happened that this was done by the thousands and tens of thousands and more, and sometimes in inhuman ways like skinning alive, burning alive, burying alive. And enslavement - also here often by the thousands and tens of thousands and more. Captives to a large degree were kept or sold or given away for slavery - included women and girls for work and rape for the rest of their lives "lawful and good" according to the Quran ”The religion of peace" at work. Try to find also something like this in NT and the new covenant! One more of the at least 200% sure proof for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - and for that Jesus and Muhammad not only are in the same line, but does not even belong in the same moral world.
244 47/4i: "- - - but (He (Allah*) lets you fight) in order to test you - - -". Why - why does an omniscient and omnipotent god need to test his followers - he knows everything and predestines everything!? There is no logic in this sentence, unless it in reality is Muhammad who wants warriors and needs an explanation.
245 47/4j: "- - - but (He (Allah*) lets you fight) in order to test you - - -". There are so many ways of testing a person. Why did "the Religion of Peace" have to do it by raids and wars for wealth and slaves and power?!! There is no logic in this, too, unless the explanation is that in reality it was Muhammad who wanted warriors and needed to "explain" why "Allah wanted it".
#246 47/4k: “But those who are slain in the way of Allah - He (Allah*) will never let their deeds be lost.” "Make war for the religion of peace" and go to Paradise. But this only is true if Allah exists and is a major war god (only a war god rewards ill deeds, and makes them look god in the perpetrators' eyes - well, also devils do).
247 47/4m: "- - - He (Allah*) will never let their (slain warriors') deeds be lost - - -". If the Quran tells the truth, if Allah exists, if Allah is a major god of war (only gods of war and devils reward or "reward" ill deeds and make them look good in the doers' eyes).
248 47/5c: “Soon will He (Allah*) guide them (Muslims slain for Allah/Muhammad*) and improve their conditions, And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them”. Vague promises - it can of course be no less than Paradise, but you will find much more epic - and lyric - descriptions not much later. Allah quickly had found a good receipt - or perhaps Muhammad. Nice promises for the warriors and cheap promises for Muhammad. This claim/promise is invalid if the Quran is a made up book - and at least no god made a book of that quality.
249 47/5a: “Soon will He (Allah*) guide them (Muslims slain for Allah/Muhammad*) - - -". See 7/192a and 16/107b above.
250 47/5c: “Soon will He (Allah*) guide them (Muslims slain for Allah/Muhammad*) and improve their conditions, And admit them to the Garden which He has announced for them”. Vague promises - it can of course be no less than Paradise, but you will find much more epic - and lyric - descriptions not much later. Allah quickly had found a good receipt - or perhaps Muhammad. Nice promises for the warriors and cheap promises for Muhammad. This claim/promise is invalid if the Quran is a made up book - and at least no god made a book of that quality.
251 47/6a: (YA4825): “Soon will He (Allah*) guide them and improve their condition - - -.” But who does “them” refer to? If it is the dead ones (see 48/4 above), it here means a good life in the hereafter. If it is the ones fighting, it simply may refer to riches and money and loot and slaves and raping women. Pick your choice.
252 47/6b: "(Allah will*) admit them (dead Muslims*) to the Gardens which He announced for them". If Allah exists and is a major god, and the Quran tells the complete and only truth. If not it was Muhammad who announced it.
253 47/35a: “Be not fainthearted (when fighting in war*) - - -“. A clear message.
254 47/35d: "- - - (Allah*) will never put you in loss for your (Muslims'*) (good) deeds (on the battlefield*)". See 47/35b above - one more indication.
**255 48/15b: “Those who lagged behind (did not take active part in the battle or fight*) (will say), when ye (the “real” warriors*) (are free to) march and take booty (in war) - - -”. The stealing and robbing and taking of slaves and raping of girls and women, are for the active warriors only - a huge incentive for poor, uneducated ruffians. Is it partly the same effect we see in Darfur and saw f.x. in Bangladesh and East Timor? - easy to find warriors, and most inhuman behavior. May such things happen other places if Islam grows strong enough and fanatics - or the "right" kind of mullahs or imams - take over the leadership? There are tendencies in London, and many of the 9/11 terrorists came from Hamburg - not to mention the unrest in many cities in France in 2006, and for that case in some a little liberal countries in (North) Africa where fanatics want to take over power (one exception may - just may - be Turkey, which has been secular since Ataturk in the 1920s. There may be a chance. Strangely enough also Bangladesh and Malaysia have a small chance to become human democracies - and perhaps Jordan and a couple of the emirates benevolent dictatorships. But the rest of all the Muslim world either is in the grip of fanatics or is drifting that way at present - towards what some call Muslim radicalism, others Muslim conservatism - likely the most correct expression - and even others Islamism, but which all just are different names for fanatics). (This was written before the unrest in Muslim countries in 2011).
What had the world looked like today if the Muslim world had not petrified into stony fundamentalism and stagnated? - if the Muslim world who had developed the industrial revolution and superior weapons and ways of fighting instead of the West? You can bet against very heavy odds that the world now had been ruled by imams, and without any realistic chance of ever becoming a free world.
##256 48/15c: (A48/14): “- - - when ye (Muslims*) (are free to) march and take plunder (in war) - - -.” Or: “As soon as you (O Muslims!) are about to set forth on a war that promises booty - - -.” For some strange (?) reasons in none of our different translations are used the literal meaning of the Arab text (translated from Swedish): “- - - leave on a raid to take plunder - - -.” May be sometimes the varieties in the understanding of the Quranic texts are because one does not want what really is said in the book. According to Islamic information or disinformation all Muhammad’s some 80 raids (we have the names of some 60 of the raids) were in self defense, and then it may as well be wise for “the Religion of Peace” to “mend” the text a little and make it more tasteful and "correct"? - instead of translating the Quran correctly and have to admit that Muhammad made "raids to take plunder" - not very holy jihads.
#####"The Religion of Peace"??? #####"The Religion of Honesty"??? - #########remember that stealing and not only lying is dishonesty.
At least: Clearly a god of war.
##257 48/15d: (A48/14): “- - - when ye (Muslims*) (are free to) march and take plunder (in war) - - -.” Or: “As soon as you (O Muslims!) are about to set forth on a war that promises booty - - -.” Try to find things like this in NT! One more at least 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of anything of any consequence.
**258 48/16b: “Say (Muhammad*) to the desert Arabs (but most of the Quran is valid for all people and all times according to Islam*) who lagged behind: ‘Ye shall be summoned (to fight) against a people given to vehement war: then shall ye fight, or they shall submit. Then if ye show obedience (fight*), Allah will grant you a goodly reward (rich spoils of holy(?) war and Paradise*) - - -”. A huge carrot to make fighting attractive - but what peaceful religion goes far out to make war attractive?
259 48/16e: "Ye (the desert Arabs*) shall be summoned (to fight) against a people given to vehement war: then ye shall fight , or they shall submit." Try to find things like this in NT! One more at least 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of anything of any consequence.
***260 48/16f: "Then if ye (in this case desert Arabs reluctant to take part in raids*) show obedience, Allah will grant you a goodly reward - - -". Obedience to whom? - here on Earth in reality to Muhammad, and for a reward costing Muhammad exactly nothing but some words free of charge. The dream position for a Hitler, a Stalin, a Mao, a Papa Doc, any dictator wanting absolute and total power and obedience. Religion disused is the ultimate platform of power.
And what goodly reward? The never proved promise about a place in Paradise and permission to steal, rape, extort, and take slaves. The tragedies this meant for others NEVER - then or today - is mentioned. ###Islam is an extremely self centered and selfish religion. This is even more sinister as the religion highly likely is a made up pagan one, as no god would deliver a "holy" book of a quality like the Quran.
***261 48/16h: “- - - but if ye (see first part of 48/16a above*) turn back (refuse to fight*) as ye did before, He (Allah*) will punish you with a grievous Penalty”. Very clear words from Muhammad and then Islam: Do battle or end in Hell. Some nice "Religion of Peace"! Try to find things like this in NT! One more at least 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of anything of any consequence.
###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.
262 48/16i: "- - - He (Allah*) will punish you (Bedouins*) with a grievous Penalty (for not going on raids and to war*)". The good and benevolent god for "the religion of peace"?
263 48/16j: "- - - a grievous Penalty". See 3/77b above.
264 48/16k: When you see the verse 48/16 as a whole, there is only this conclusion possible to draw: A man who says the Quran teaches a human and peaceful and friendly religion towards non-Muslims and some fractions of Muslims, either has not read the Quran, or is deceiving himself, or is lying - and knows he is lying, and this was said in 628 AD, long time after Islam had been changed to a religion of dishonesty, apartheid, blood, and war. At this time Muhammad knew ever so well that he was lying each time he said things like that - and each time he had said it earlier, and not corrected it by now. (But then lying "if necessary" to defend or promote the religion is no sin according to the rules for al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) and Kitman (the lawful half-truth) in Islam - the only of the big religions with rules for ok. dishonesty). And any man believing him either has not read the Quran, or is deceiving himself or is naïve.
The same is the only conclusion possible after reading the whole Quran, and especially the surahs from Medina - which on top of all dominates over the more peaceful ones from Mecca according to Islam’s own rule abrogation, as the ones from Medina are younger.
###If a book about politics or any other subject than religion (actually for Muslims religion is politics), inciting so strongly to hate, (religious) apartheid, suppression (of women and of all outsiders), stealing/robbing, rape, murder and war, it had been prohibited in all civilized and most little civilized countries. (It was proposed to prohibit it in the Netherlands, but it will not be politically possible to do it because of Islam's power).
265 48/17a: "No blame is there on the blind, not blame is there on the lame, nor on one ill (if he joins not the war) - - -". Only the seriously handicapped were not to blame for not going to war when Muhammad wanted, and he wanted very often (it is said he was involved in 82 armed "episodes" - www.1000mistakes.com/jihad-holywar/index.php names 3 - mainly the last 10 years = the Medina period = ca. 1 every six weeks, practically all of them Muslim aggression, and most of them raids to steal and take prisoners for slaves or ransom - facts Muslims never mention when they claim it was "holy wars").
266 48/17b: "No blame is there on the blind, nor is there blame on the lame, nor one ill (if he joins not the war) - - -". The underlying, but clear meaning: But there is blame on every fit man who does not want to go on raids/war. There is not an adult Muslim not knowing about points like this in the Quran. All the same they vehemently and with straight faces claim that Islam is "the Religion of Peace"(!!!)
No comment - and none necessary.
###267 48/17c: “- - - but he (the Muslim*) that obeys Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad, and goes to war when called*) - (Allah) will admit him to Gardens beneath which rivers flow - - -”. The great War God (Allah) and his representative and High Commander on Earth (Muhammad) will admit any dead warrior (aka robber, murderer, rapist, etc., “good and lawful” according to the Quran) to their warriors’ paradise with riches and women. Also see 48/16a and 48/16b above + 10/9f above.
268 48/18d: "- - - He (Allah*) rewarded them (Muhammad and his Muslims*) with a speedy Victory - - -". Allah or the military realities? "Gott mit uns" - "the god is with us" - is a frequently used propaganda slogan, but may be Napoleon was more honest and correct, when he said "the god is with the strongest armies".
####269 48/19a: "And many gains will they (Muslims*) acquire (besides) - - -". Well, a good number of Muslims became rich or at least well off from plunder, extortion, slave taking, etc. But we have never till this day met a single Muslim - not to mention a Muslim religious or profane leader or Islam itself - reflecting on what price others had to pay for that. You meet boasting about riches and power, but never a thought about the victims. And as it was "good and lawful" according to Muhammad, none of them will ever do or think so - not among the religious Muslims at least. That is ethics and moral in Islam.
As said the price paid by the victims NEVER interested neither Allah, nor the Muslims, nor Muhammad. Not even the Muslims of today. What does this tell about them? - and about Islam?
270 48/20b: "Allah has promised you (Muslims*) many gains that ye shall acquire (from plunder*) - - -". See 48/19a above.
We may add that Shakir here has: "- - - many acquisitions which you will take" and Dawood: "- - - (Allah*) has promised you rich booty - - -". There is no doubt what kind of gains Allah/Muhammad here promises Muslim warriors.
271 48/20c: "Allah has promised you (Muslims*) many gains that ye shall acquire (from plunder*) - - -". Try to find things like this in NT! One more at least 100% proof for that Yahweh and Allah were not the same god - and Jesus and Muhammad not in the same line of anything of any consequence.
272 48/20f: (A48/23 – in 2008 edition A22): “Allah has promised you many gains that ye shall acquire - - -.” Booty. A good and cheap way to get warriors. But does it here only talk about “gold and slaves and a few rapes” in this life (may be Khaybar in this case), or also riches in the next life like among others Ibn Abbas thought?
The price paid by the victims NEVER interested neither Allah, nor the Muslims, nor Muhammad. What does this tell about them? - and about Islam?
273 48/27f: "- - - a speedy victory". See 48/18e above.
#####274 48/28f: "- - - to proclaim it (Islam*) over all religion - - -”. This part of the sentence tells volumes about Islam - and especially so as other verses in the Quran demand that other religions and their followers shall be suppressed and discriminated on, and (and pay extra tax - frequently a high one).
275 57/18d: "- - - loan to Allah a Beautiful Loan - - -". This is a standard expression in the Quran, normally meaning risking or giving your life in raids or wars for Muhammad - in most cases not for the defense of the religion, but for stealing/robbing, enslaving, extorting, etc. (see the chapter about Muhammad’s raids in "1000+ Mistakes in the Quran" - www.1000mistakes.com . Also see 57/11a-d above. (For the record: In just this case there is a chance that also this expression refers to giving money, but this in case is not the normal meaning of it.)
**276 61/4b: “Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array as if they were a solid cemented structure”. The ones who say the Quran is as good as the Bible, not to mention NT, have never read the Quran - which we can say even if we are not very Christian.
- A god loving mass slaughter and murderers!!!
- If that is a good god, I do hope I never meet a bad one.
- And this is the icon and ideal of Islam!
- Will you like to live in a Muslim society in a world ruled by such a religion?
- And remember: War and hate is only one part of Islam.
But a mighty incitement and war propaganda mixed with romancing of war – and everyone at this time knew about spoils of war and slaves and free women to rape, etc.
But Allah never gave even one valid proof for that he was a god and loved war and warriors.
In religions there normally is a percentage of fanaticism and extremism. In Islam these are channelled into war and terrorism. In a way as bad: In all cultures and countries there are low quality men - riff-raff - with a liking for "easy money" - f.x. by stealing - and for physical suppression, rape, dishonesty, fighting, etc. In Islam also the riff-raff is channelled into "holy warriors" - - - with very obvious and natural results.
######277 61/10b: "Shall I (Muhammad*) lead you to a bargain - - -". = Fight and be killed for Muhammad (and Allah if he exists) and go to Paradise. A bargain for the believers if the Quran is true and from a god - and cheap warriors for Muhammad (and his successors), especially if the bargain is not from a god (and at least the Quran and Muhammad are not - for the Quran the proof is among other things all the mistaken facts and other errors, and for Muhammad that he preached a book and a teaching consequently not from a god).
278 61/12a: “(If you go to war and/or are killed for Muhammad*) He (Allah*) will forgive you your sins, and admit you to Gardens beneath which rivers flow, and to beautiful mansions in Gardens of eternity - - -.” There once was a cheap book named “All this and Heaven too”. It is similar here: all the rape and stealing and slaves you can manage – and for those good, benevolent deeds for your as benevolent god: The Paradise with more luxury and more women. Nice and attractive for naïve, poor and virile – not to say virulent – uncivilized young and not young men.
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
279 61/13b: “(And in war you will get*) help from Allah and a speedy victory.” See 61/12a above – and in addition you will not have to fight much, for the victory will be easy. Yes, "the religion of Peace". Not to mention "the god of Peace"?
280 61/13d: (A61/13): “- - - help from Allah and a speedy victory.” Is this pep-talk? (No Muslim will agree). Is it hope for capturing Mecca? – this was said 4 – 5 years earlier. Is it referring to one or more of the raids the Muslims had started to make a couple of years before (this surah is from 625 - 626 AD)? – or raids to come? Or a general hope for the future? Make your guess – nobody knows unless they judge from wishful thinking or “correct” meanings, as the book says nothing. Very clear speech.
281 64/17a: “If you loan to Allah, a beautiful loan - - -". In the Quran this expression normally incites you to fight in raids/war for Allah/Muhammad and risk your life for him/them - the best of all religious deeds according to the Quran.
282 64/17b: “If you loan to Allah, a beautiful loan, He will double it to your (credit), and he will grant you Forgiveness - - -“. Very similar thinking to the worst medieval excesses made by the Roman Catholic Church once upon a time. But good slogans for recruiting warriors – and money.
There is a lot more like this - much of it just with other words. Add this to all the other pep talk for warriors in the Quran, and you get something that should never be forgotten - not even by USA.
And of course there is the problem of never knowing who the few are who will turn terrorists, and the not few who are willing to help them - with money at least. The 5. column. Some 30% of Muslims at least have sympathy for or “understands why” terrorists are at work, international polls show - more and much more in some places.
And all the same: Never forget that the majority of Muslims absolutely do not want anything but peace and a quiet family life. The ideology of hate and war and suppression is detestable, but not so all the ones of them who are normal people.
It is too late to keep Islam at a distance - too many have emigrated to the west. The absolute majority have moved vest for economical reasons, but for Muslims to move into “enemy” territory and then later to try to take control, is a strategy of war frequently advocated in the Quran. That f. x. was what happened in Indonesia. Besides a scattered few may move west because of or partly because of that ideology - but then it only takes a few to wreak havoc. May be one should not make the problem bigger until we see how the ones already here will develop - how the integration and the culture will develop. Though Paris and other places may be sinister warnings.
As for forgiving from Allah: See 2/187d above.
##283 66/9d: “O Prophet (Muhammad*)! Strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell - - -.” A clear order and a clear explanation why they are sub-human, and thus deserve to die. “Untermench” always are ok to kill – they deserve it. It also is the right of the “Übermench” to do so – and in the Quran no doubt the Muslims are the “Übermench”. (Quite like the Nazi philosophy - except that according to the Nazis, Arabs were "Untermench".(Übermench = super humans, Untermench = sub humans.)
This quote also is one of the proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god, and Jesus and Muhammad far from in the same religion - Jesus f.x. never ordered his followers to (armed) fight.
###Also the big differences between the Bible's and the Quran's hells are more than big and fundamental enough to prove that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god - if they had been, also their hells had been more or less identical.
####284 73/20d: “He (Allah*) knoweth that there may be (some) among you - - - fighting in Allah’s cause”. This is the only mentioning of fighting up to around 616 AD - and there was nearly nothing before 622 AD when Muhammad started to need warriors for his raids for wealth, etc., in a period where Muhammad had brought nearly 50 - fifty - surahs, not one of which even mention the word fighting (more than 80 by 622 AD). And as is showed below there is no other unmistakable mentioning of fighting in all the 12 years before Muhammad had to flee to Yathrib (now Medina) - and even this verse may simply mean mental fighting by means of words and deeds, not by means of the sword. This in spite of how central the war for Allah and for Muhammad became. Did Allah change his mind after some years? Or was it Muhammad who changed as he gained power? This early Muhammad did not have enough followers to really fight with weapons. But in case it at this time only meant fighting with words it is even stranger that Allah later so totally changed his mind, from a peaceful religion to one of war and hate with so much stress on the duty to fight and die for Allah and Muhammad. If he was omniscient, he should from the very beginning have known what a gift it was to Allah that humans fought and killed each others in reverence to him - not to mention how unfair it was not to tell his first followers about this sure way to Paradise and the houris, etc., and deny them this easy way to the Next Life. Not to mention how unfair it was against the bad ones of his followers not to tell them that they really had a chance to come to Paradise: Be killed in war for Allah, and everything was forgiven, nearly no matter how bad a man you had been. But the really great mystery is: Why did and does an omnipotent god need humans to fight for him? There is no logic in this claim. (But there is logic if Muhammad wanted them to fight for himself.)
It is worth mentioning that Muslim scholars means the contents in this verse concerning fighting, does not belong here. Some - f.x. A73/12 (A73/13 in the English 2008 edition) - means it is written in the future tense, and thus about something which may happen (and did happen) later. The majority - f.x. YA5774 - means that these words were from Medina many years later, but included here (that verses are included in surahs from a different time, is not unusual in the Quran). ####### If any of these explanations is correct, there in reality was no - not one single - case of incitement to war or raids in the Quran until after Muhammad started to need warriors for raids for riches and later for conquests in and after 622 AD. (The "tone" in the verse is so typical for Medina and the war religion Islam developed into there, that it is highly likely the majority of the Muslim scholars are right - that this is a verse from Medina inserted in this surah from the much more peaceful time in Mecca.)
#####285 73/20e: (A73/12 - English 2008 edition 73/13): "- - - there is no doubt that jihad was first sanctioned during the Medina period - - -". Which confirms that Muhammad and Islam did not think about or talk about or insist on or glorify war until after Muhammad started needing warriors for his raids for riches and later also for conquests, in and after 622 AD. Was this very fundamental change in the religion at this time a coincidence? And why did not the omniscient god Allah know before 622 AD - and Muhammad's need for warriors know - that fighting was a good thing, a duty for all fit Muslim men, and a sure way to Paradise for even the worst sinner?
286 73/20f: "- - - fighting in Allah's cause - - -". One of the at least 200% proofs for that Yahweh and Allah are not the same god. Even in the centuries when the Jews fought wars - mainly (not exclusively, but mainly) from Joshua around 1195 BC and some centuries on - it was to establish and later defend a country for the Jews, NOT for the sake of the god. And to try to compare it with NT, is a waste of time. "Islam, the Religion of Peace" - is it a slogan based on al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie) or an unintended black joke? (Why do Islam and Muslims so seldom claim that "Islam is the Religion of Honesty"?)
287 73/20i: "- - - and loan to Allah a Beautiful Loan". This expression in the Quran normally means: "Go to war when Muhammad calls, and risk/give your life for Allah/Muhammad" - in reality for Muhammad here on this Earth.
288 73/20j: "- - - whatever good ye (people, Muslims*) send forth for your souls - - -". = Whatever good deeds you do in this life, will benefit you at the Day of Doom - and in the war religion Islam was turned into in/after 622 - 624 AD, nothing was a better deed than to go on raids or war for Muhammad - - - and nearly all of Muhammad's raids were for stealing/looting, taking captives for slaves or extortion, and later also for power and for forcing Islam on the Arabs - large parts of Arabia got the choice: "Become Muslims or fight us and die" (though many by Muhammad's successors, not by Muhammad himself). Also see the list about Muhammad's raids and wars, where the purpose of the raids is given, in https://www.1000mistakes.com .
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This work was upload with assistance of M. A. Khan, editor of islam-watch.org and the author of "Islamic Jihad: A Legacy of Forced Conversion, Imperialism, and Slavery".